Lewis was wrong: Klitschkos are TOO GOOD for the competition

That is very doubtful. All four of those guys hit with more authority than Vitali does nowadays, and all four are have a greater killer-instinct in the ring and are far more aggressive these days than Vitali. I'd doubt that Johnson would be let off the ropes by the likes of Frazier and Marciano, and I doubt he could take too many left hooks or Suzie Q's either.

 

Foreman KOs the kid in a round pal :dead

 

Johnson was a boring spoiler alrite but vitali demonstrated a lack of creativity in dealing with him. When johnson in effect took away his right he took away his offence and left him with very little. Its up to the rest of the heavies to step up and make a challenge and stop complaining about how bad the division is, if its so bad then it should be easy to beat these guys.......!! but unfortunatly noone has done that in a long time so its not that easy after all

 

This is absolutely correct. Both of the Klitschkos make the competition LOOK ORDINARY. They make very very good fighters look ordinary giving the impression that there is no good competition out there.

Steve Bunce (that British guy) repeatedly stated this on his show!

 

I don't think Vitali needed to do that much when he was in so much control. If he had wanted to he could have cranked it up a notch or two but it wasn't necessary.

regards

 

Word! Nothin' more to add...

I'm waitin' for Haye gettin' his ass whopped by either of the bro's...

 

Klitschko's are too good for the competition, but Johnson does not survive against prime Tyson, Frazier, or any of those great pressure fighters. Vitali could have knocked Johnson out if he threw more uppercuts / overhand rights, exc. He doesnt cause he secures the win, he's smart.

 

Possibly. He certainly didn't go all out for the knockout. The point I'm making though is that Tyson, Marciano, Foreman and Frazier would, that's just the way they fight. And they would get it.

I'm not convinced in Vitali's power now anyway. He hasn't been hurting guys with single big-punches like he used to. He just breaks them down physically and mentally with a great volume. I think he's worried his body might break down again. if he starts throwing leather with venom.

 

Johnson was playing to survive though as time went on. You don't really see that in HW boxing. It's a lot different to play to win, than it is to play to survive. Competing in a fight, means exposing yourself anytime you throw a punch. Johnson didn't throw anything appart from his defensive jab. Couple that with a good chin and a good defense and you get a boxer who is unlikely to go down.

I don't actually blame Johnson. I think he wanted to tire Vitali and start banging in the later rounds. Problem was, after round 6-7, it became obvious that Vitali was nowhere near tired. Vitali has legendary stamina I would say. Wlad, Haye all look better conditioned, but Vitali can probably last four times as long as any of them.

The HW division isn't much weaker than in the 90s really, where the best boxer of the lot, Tyson, was shot before priming. Holyfield, to his credit, was a great boxer all round. But he wasn't a true HW. And he had a suspect health condition on top of it. Lewis emerged the best, mainly because Lewis faced no such disadvantages. He was big, healthy and he could box. He wasn't as techincally gifted as either Holyfield or Tyson or other boxers I could mention. But he fought at the right time and stopped fighting at the right time. I don't think he actually... avoided boxers. It's just that time and events (McCall shocker, Bowe chickening) have paved the way firmly in his favour.

Lewis has two defining wins in his career. One against Holyfield and the other against Vitali. Without those, he wouldn't be half the legend he is today. And while many refuse to admit, Vitali raised Lewis's standings quite a bit. And like Holyfield and Tyson, Lewis fought Vitali at the right time, when he was still... green. After the fight, knowing he was challenged greatly, knowing that in most parts of the game he was outboxed, he decided to retire. People go by his comments post fight, where he says he would have won anyway (he also said he'd have no problem giving Vit a rematch). But it's what Lewis wanted people to believe, when in truth, he was in deep oceans in that fight, that bad bad cut (it wasn't really a big punch that made it) was just from the Heavens for Lewis. But such matters are irrelevant, Lewis won, he didn't give a rematch (he, the undefeated "by the way of rematch"). And now he feels he can look... downwards.

Truth is, the HW devision has been 'poor' ever since Ali retired.

 

In comparison to the 70's maybe, but the 90's era certainly wasn't 'poor'.

 

I don't see Vitali getting by Haye. Haye is too quick for him. Vitali's slow movement would do him no good against a fighter like Haye who relies on his quickness and reflexes. If KJ was able to do damage to Vitali's face, Haye is gonna do worst.

 

It was poor, maybe at the start of the 90s one could argue, otherwise, where were the great fighters? Holyfield? Not after his recurrent health problems. Tyson? Never past the Douglas defeat or Lewis Lennox? Who barely won a decision against Mercer. Now, I like Mercer, but he's not a great boxer. Far from it. He's just a physical beast.
There were certainly exciting fights with very exciting fighters but... no, this period can't be much worse really, as far as... boxing goes. Look at Haye, he's certainly got nothing on the real legends, but what he does have is a mouth and a strong punch. And he's making headlines... if in the future, we'll get 2 or 3 fighters like Haye, we'll soon call that period as the next best thing in HW boxing despite it containing 'weak' contenders.

 

the competition ****ing sucks.

no denying it