Lewis would've knocked Wlad out with relative ease.

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is going life and death with Sam Peter worse than going life and death with Euro level nobody Zeljko Mavrovich? :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  2. Outstock

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    Prime is the period of a fighters career before he becomes past prime.

    Explain to me how Wlad was past his prime every time he lost, as any and every Wlad fan will point to the Mercer fight as his best performance.
    Only 9 months on from that blitzing of Mercer , was he destroyed in two rounds by Sanders.

    Nobody was complaining about Wlads performances as he blasted people out immediately before and after his loses.

    A move to Germany and a drop in the level of opposition meant he was at less risk , while also receiving leniency to commit fouls like no other HW of recent history.
    He is still the same jab , right hand , rinse- repeat fighter he always was , only with added clinching .
    Brewster and Sanders got him while he was at his ultimate prime. Excuses of being past prime just won't wash.

    There's nothing whatsoever to suggest he was unprepared. How was he unprepared?​
     
  3. Beatle

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    Lewis himself disagrees with you, because he called out Vlad and then retired. It's like yelling to a guy from the other side of the street that you want to beat him up, and then running home to your mom when he starts walking toward you.
     
  4. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sanders had only fought three rounds in the two previous years so Klitschko wasn't expecting to actually face a "live" body. The Sanders fight was made merely to pad Klitschko's record. Klitschko wasn't prepared for that butt-kicking he received.
     
  5. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Sanders had been training and taking advise from Lewis . Wlad knew it.

    He never took anybody lightly and never under prepared for anybody.

    He got his butt kicked because he just wasn't good enough to beat Sanders.
     
  6. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with you. My post was made in sarcasm to irritate the Klitschko fan boys.
     
  7. Big Red

    Big Red Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, he could knock out Wlad with a right hand at quarter power, but then so could Wlad. Both have bad chins lol. It would be a fight where who is the best at delivering the power and Wlad stacks up really good in that regard.
     
  8. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I'd say lewis would be a favorite, but he was knocked out buy far lesser fighters than Wlad and wlad is a big puncher so I'd give wlad good chance to ko lewis.
     
  9. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You sure about that? Cause Wlad take Sanders lightly. Sanders was replacement of replacement, and Wlad has no time to prepare himself well enough and as i mention above he take the fight lightly.
    Also his trainer didnt exam Corrie game and Wlad was well unprepared and not know what to expect.
    Prior to the bout Wladimir had a quarrel with Vitali about lack of attitude) but also a trainer fiasco. Fritz Sdunek was speechless during the break, had no clue what to do next and didn't say anything coherent about how to survive the next round. Sdunek's shock hints at a preparation failure because he obviously completely underestimated/misjudged Corrie Sanders.
    Klitschko dropped Sdunek pretty fast after the fight, switched to trainer Freddie Roach and then to trainer Emmanuel Steward shortly afterwards.

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    And who the **** tells you Klitschko best match is with Mercer?


    And you got to be complete blind to say Wladimir Klitschko game was the same with Emanuel, and that he added only clinches to his game.

    His footwork become better, his balance, he using his reach like never before, he hit and in the same time was out of opponent reach. His range with Many just become insane.
    Also Wladimir become stronger with Steward. He didnt throw usless punch anymore and his pace become better. His defence become much, much better, and not only because of clinches. He was just barely hit and never hit with combination.
    Also Klitschko before Many have habbit to lower himself, and to be out of balance and easier to hit, Many correct that.
    And Klitschko IQ on the ring with Many become insane. He become much, much smarter on the ring.
    Also Klitschko before Many wasnt doing much sparr, with Many he sparr a lot, a lot more.


    And yes Klitschko was not prime there, i will say it again, maybe you will get it this time. Your prime is when you reach your potential. You cant be prime before you reach your full potential.


    So in this very day Klitschko can destroy Joshua, is that mean Klitschko beat prime Joshua ?
    And what if Joshua lose now, but become a lot better and beat Klitschko, when he reach his full potential.
    Cause its obvious from aircraft that Joshua is not ready and not reach his full potential.
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    He never took anybody lightly and never under prepared for anybody.
    Thats become after he met Many and after his loses ....
    Same can be say for Lewis. He takes lightly Rahman and was playing with him and pay the price.
     
  10. Outstock

    Outstock PBR Full Member

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    Sounds like you just made all that up yourself. Unless you were there and Fritz told you something along the lines of-
    We don't know anything about any Corrie Sanders. Never heard of him. Wlad will just go in there and wing it. He doesn't need to train or prepare. No problem.

    Thats pretty much what your gibberish translates to in the real world.
    He was a 40 fight world champion with 6 defences of the WBO title when he lost to Sanders.
    He was absolutely in the physical pinnacle of his prime years.
    He reached this 'potential' by beating a washed up and shot version of the Chris Byrd he had already beaten when he supposedly had not reached this 'potential' but somehow beat Byrd before he reached it , when Byrd was at his best:huh

    So this 'potential' was already reached before those two loses , since beating the worst version of Chris Byrd ever was the win that kick started his title reign in 2007, the year he reached 'full potential'.

    Does this reaching of the potential also include going life and death with the bum Peter and having to foul and cheat both times to win?
    How come Eddie Chambers was easily able to out box Peter but Wlad needed a miracle intervention of a atg trainer just to be able to survive him by the skin of his teeth?
    Was reaching his potential jumping on Povektin's back every 5 seconds. Why didn't he have the tools to box Povetkin like Huck did:think
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Oh, Oh i get it now, you are probably Dino alterate or Dino long cousin.
    And no, only blind man can say Klitschko was prime against Sanders.
    Klitschko of Sanders years will lose to Povetkin, Haye and proabably few others.
    And you are talking about cheating and fauling, but you are not talking about how Peter hit him back in the head, that wasnt cheating right?
    And Klitschko was on Povetkin back, cause Povetking was going low all night, Povetkin faul, not Klitschko ...
    As far as i know against Peter one, Klitschko was nobody, how exactly he was cheating ? He pay the ref right ?

    And Peter come in 265lbs against Chambers, against Wlad 1, 243 ....
    And wasnt Chambers the guy that Klitschko humiliate in the 12 round, and before that winning all the rounds?
     
  12. vnyc

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    Joshua ?? Who the fck is Joshua???
     
  13. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    who r u? a casual by the looks of it. :hi:
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    science says his physical prime was around or just before sanders.

    what makes you disagree with all those science facts? r u a man of faith?
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Wlad in his prime was not good enough to match out a failed contender 10 years past his prime and retired. "match" is wrong wrd, he was obliterated in seconds by this relic failure of the lewis era.

    this is difference in today and lewis era. the best fighter in his best form of todays era get instantly destroyed by the worst version of failures of lewis time.

    now don't make excuses, kliittaardz.