Liam Smith vs. Liam Williams II & Josh Leather vs. Glenn Foot + Gorman vs. Soltby RBR.

Lockett had his man down in the fight.

The bookies had Smith 1/5 on going in to round 12.

Williams conceded Smith deserved the win and there was no arguments from him.

Boxing forum 24 - the great robbery! Pathetic from some of you lot tonight. Take the blinkers off. If you don’t like Smith, the Smiths or Scousers then that’s fair enough. But he clearly won tonight.

 

Smith is a big 154lber so is Williams tbf but Hurd makes them look like children, Hurd is about as tall as that Shaquille bloke doing the post fight interviews!!!!

Smith needs to try get the Wbo belt and then get a Kell Brook pay day!

I think Smith cleans up Brook to be honest, Brook is too faded and quite a bit smaller than Smith.

 

To be fair the bookies are heavily influenced by the commentators, because it's based on the money most of which is put on by casuals lapping up every word of the commentary. Quite a number of fighters, trainers, respected journalists, etc. on Twitter had Williams winning close. Still others (incl. myself) had it a draw.

I wouldn't use the R-word because if it was Smith MD 115-113 x2, 114-114 I wouldn't have a problem at all, but it wasn't a clear victory.

 

I can guarantee that quite a few thought Smith won too!!!

You guys are sounding worse than after the 1st fight.

LOL coming from a guy that admits the cut was caused by a punch and it still should have gone to the cards. No credibility UkGuy

 

Smith would be target practice even for this damaged version of Brook, completely different level of fighter.

 

Yea brook would be all over smith like a cheap suit

 

I never denied that.

You clearly do not understand the rules. If an injury caused by a legal punch is worsened by an accidental clash of heads such that the injured fighter cannot continue, the fight should go to the judges (e.g. per WBC rule 13a). Most people don't realise this. The big question is whether the Williams cut before the clash of heads was a fight ending injury. I say no.

You're welcome.

On the contrary, I have lots of credibility here, I get along well with most of the best/frequent posters here, e.g. @CST80 @drenlou @kirk @Pimp C @UnleashtheFURY @Odins beard @theanatolian @nellybc @PinoyProdigy, etc.

 

It wasn't a WBC fight was it?
It was a WBO fight UkGuy lol you know that and hell to the no was the cut worsened by the head butt

 

I'm very biased towads Williams but he failed to take hold of the fight at times and didn't seem to he able to adjust to Smiths decent jab.

But he was coming forwads and applying pressure and landing better shots.

I think the last couple of rds he gave it away. Had is close either way so a draw most probably

Williams body language was negative in last couple rds and Smith was still confident that gives the impression we should all think he was winning . It's obvious tactics. But biased commentators , joe shouting in the corner at anything and Williams body language can sway the decision

 

Wtf, I am really surprised that so many are calling this one as a robbery? In my opinion it was close but every second of that fight Smith wanted it more. He knew when he had to do little more to turn those close rounds on his favour. Williams didnt have that passion to bite his gumshield and put extra effort to win those rounds. Close fight but Williams did lack heart, that was the difference. Smith is average but he was there to get job done and thats what he did.

 

I expected Smith to get the decision before the cards were announced, especially when the wide card was read.

Smith had a better jab and seemed to win the majority of the rounds to me, I was rooting for Williams but I think it would have been a bad decision had Williams got it.

 

I was very impressed with Smith's performance. He really was able to put punches together and made Williams miss at times. Smith jab was a big factor. Close fight, the first 4 rounds especially were very close and hard to score, but Smith built a lead in the middle rounds, Williams came back in rounds 9 and 10, but then Smith came on in the final 2 rounds to close the show.

I just really enjoyed this fight overall, it may not have been as action packed as we thought it was going to be, but it really turned into a quality chess match. It's too bad that Cotto is going to retire, because I think Liam Smith vs Cotto would be a great fight in 2018. If Cotto wins hopefully Beefy will show up in the ring and call him out for 1 more fight.

 

The rounds that we disagree on are rounds 4 and 7. After Williams' great round 3, Smith made some adjustments in Round 4 and seemed to edge that round pretty clearly. Williams may have got in some power shots but I thought Smith asserted himself down the stretch outlanded Williams in that round and appeared to do well gain some momentum back.

I'm guessing in round 7 you gave it to Williams due to how he ended the round, but LS blocked the few hard punches by Williams at the end of the round, the punches moved Smith but they didn't actually land, Smith did well to block those punches. Also Williams appeared to lunge in with a headbutt in the round that was seen on the replay. It didn't seem to cause any damage but I was worried that Williams might try to get desperate again lol. But to his Williams' credit, he didn't fight too dirty in this fight, and was graceful in defeat, even stated in the post fight interview that the better man (Smith) won.

Williams did OK in sports, he landed some pretty hard uppercuts, a number of hard jabs and some looping left hooks that got around Smith's guard, but he just wasn't landing as consistently as Smith. Smith was definitely the ring general in there and he did well to move out of the way and make Williams come to him. Smith started opening up by the middle rounds really putting punches together, and managed to land a few body shots as part of his combinations which was good to see. The only problems I saw from Smith were there were times where Smith mis-timed some straight rights that fell short and he gave Williams opportunities to counter. Though when Smith did miss short on those straight rights from range, Williams usually wasn't close enough to counter quick enough. On the inside, though there were times where Smith would land a jab or an uppercut, and Williams would do well to quickly counter with even harder shots of his own coming back and I was impressed by Williams ability to actually punctuate a lot of the exchanges with quick hard counters. Williams is a good crisp puncher, he can land short hard dynamic punches, and at times Williams sort of looked like a poor man's RJJ just with the way he was throwing some of his punches, but only in spurts. LW did land a lunging left hook at one point which was kinda cool to see from him. But for most of the fight Smith was able to dictate the range, land jabs, and land more multi-punch combos than Williams, most of Smith's combos didn't all land clean but Smith kept his work rate up and when he did that, he wouldn't give Williams time to land the same amount of punches in return.

I actually had the first 2 rounds even as I could decide who won those rounds, so I had it 6-4 & 2 even for Smith, 116-114.

 

I gave Smith round 4 but not round 7, will have to rewatch that one. Thus my card was a draw, and I have no problem with a 2-pt Smith card at all nor with a Smith MD.

Overall it was a considerably better performance from Smith compared to last time and Williams wasn't as active or committed. At first I thought Williams was just conserving energy as he looked tired towards the end last time out, but after stepping it up and winning Round 10 Williams didn't seem to have much left for Rounds 11 & 12 anyway.

117-111 was too wide though, Williams definitely got four rounds at least.

 

I know Smith came off very badly in the first fight, but what he said had some truth to it. Williams swallowed it first time around and in the second fight, he was fighting like he had no confidence in his gas tank. Smith got into his head and won the rematch so credit to him. I wanted Williams to win, but Smith done the job.