Liam Williams: The Machine-The Light Middleweight Human Grist Mill Of Clydach Vale.

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  1. Sir Will Wigan

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    Care to break the tie with your prediction?
     
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  2. Serge

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    I pick Liam lol

    But seriously, I haven't really given it much thought. I think Willams on point or late stoppage. Tough fight for both but he's the better man IMO.
     
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  3. Jim Jeffries

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    Hopefully justice prevails and Williams gets his hand raised.

    Williams needs to pace himself better over 12.
     
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  5. shadow111

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    Will be interesting to see if Williams can keep himself under control this time around and avoid the typical headbutt out of frustration.

    I'd expect LW to pace himself better this time around, he was outboxing LS pretty well early on until he started gassing out in the mid rounds. Most people seem to be picking LW as he seems to have what it takes to outwork LS, but LS has more experience and I could see him taking over. Will be interesting to see if LS tries to slow LW down by going to the body. If it gets to the later rounds, I'd favor LS as he's probably going to have more in the tank if he can avoid LW's shots, but LW definitely ain't a guy to take lightly in there. LW can punch and LS has got to keep his guard up, avoid getting hurt to the body and try to land well-placed accurate shots on LW to thwart LW's offense and make him reset. This should be good however long it lasts. If it goes the distance, then wow we'd expect it to be 12 action packed edge of your seat rounds. Both these guys should come to fight and it should be fun to watch.
     
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  6. Farmboxer

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    Don't know if he can make it now......................
     
  7. lepinthehood

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    Hopefully Williams wins this one, better boxer.
     
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  8. Grooveongreg

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    Watch it back. The round he got butted he was winning. He did start to look tired but if he hadn' got butted I think he could have had the composure to buy some time , hold or wait for 2nd wind..

    I cant wait for this one stylisically they match up great
     
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  9. shadow111

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    Williams butted Smith first which caused the cut on Williams eyelid that caused the fight to be stopped at the end of the round. Right after Williams butted Smith, moments later Smith retaliated and butted Williams, which is all most people noticed. (most people didn't catch the Williams headbutt that happened first due to the camera angle and it not being as noticible as Smith's - on the Williams headbutt, watching it live it just kinda looked like he was just going in for a clinch or something but it was actually a very brutal headbutt that connected with great force)

    You need to watch it back and pay attention to all the slow motion replays after the fight was stopped, there was one slow-mo replay in particular where you can see both headbutts and what caused the cut. Before the headbutts, Williams was still ahead by 1 point on the cards but it was clear that Smith had the momentum and Williams was getting tired and starting to get frustrated. It's just amazing how many people blamed Smith for the headbutt and for the stoppage, when it was actually Williams who headbutted Smith first out of frustration which caused his own cut and the stoppage. It doesn't make Smith's headbutt OK, but he was just getting even with Williams after being headbutted.

    It's really an interesting backstory and controversy leading to the rematch because I can't ever remember a situation like this heading into a rematch, but it makes for great drama and I agree that stylistically they match up great.
     
  10. Grooveongreg

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    Didn't say Williams never butted Smith

    What I said was the LS headbutt was the deciding factor as Williams was winning the round he got butted in. After receiiving the butt Williams backed off and was on unstead feet. He wasn't gassed before that just looked tired . So the pressumtion that Smith would have won without the headbutt is unfounded imo.
     
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    Camelot will not be happy if beefy loses
     
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  15. Serge

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    It's Free Fight Friday! This one courtesy of BT Sport

    Is Liam Williams is the best 154-160 pounder on the planet?

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    LIAM WILLIAMS IN NO MOOD TO TOLERATE ‘BORING’ BRITISH TITLE CHALLENGER JOE MULLENDER

    Clydach’s Liam Williams (19-2-1, 14KO) makes the first defence of his British middleweight title on Friday and ‘The Machine’ is in no mood to tolerate ‘boring’ challenger Joe Mullender (11-2, 5KO).

    The former English champion has played down his chances in the domestic showdown, live on BT Sport. Williams has been surprised by the narrative and remains sure it’s a ploy to entice him to let his guard down, both figuratively and literally.

    The Welshman said: “It’s not a true reflection of what he [Mullender] really thinks. Maybe it’s me being bad minded but I think he’s trying to get me to think I’ve already won the fight, so I go in there and take my eye off the ball. Realistically, he hasn’t got too much hope, so his best chance is to try and bluff me.

    “He’s going to bring what he normally brings – a tough fight. He’ll be as game as they come. Lets be honest, this is his world title fight. This is his big, big chance and he’ll try to grab it with both hands and make a statement. I’m not going to allow that. I’ll stop him in his tracks and knock him out.

    “For me, the guy sends me to sleep. He bores the life out of me. There’s no spark. He might as well retire with his slippers on because he’s so boring.”

    Just like the 10th round domination of Manchester’s heavily favoured Mark Heffron in December, Williams again travels to his opponent’s backyard. The 26-year-old insists home advantage will prove to be an own goal for Mullender, though the view will be nice at the historic Royal Albert Hall in London.

    “The venue is outstanding,” said Williams. “I’ve been there to visit for a presser and it’s going to be very good on the night. There are not many bad seats in the building.

    “He’s probably going to have a lot of fans there. He’s a good ticket seller but what does that mean? It doesn’t mean s***. I’ve been to people’s backyards; I’ve been booed and shouted at. It means nothing. If I’m getting verbals at the venue, it’s gonna backfire on their man because I’ll make him pay. Believe me.”

    Williams, now a two-weight British champion, has seen his fortunes flipped from clear betting underdog to a big favourite in the space of one fight. The no-nonsense puncher is aware of the expectation and refuses to read too much in to it. However, Williams knows that he can afford no slip ups if he’s to progress to the places his handlers, MTK Global, have in mind.

    He said: “There are no names being given to me but they’ve told me there are big fights possibly in the waiting for me. I’ve just got to do my job and they’ll do theirs.

    “Mullender is a fight I’ve got to win to move forward to where I want to be. Forget the champion tag, it means s*** to me. I’ve just got to go in and do what I do best and win. I haven’t even got my belt with me. I’m just focusing on winning this fight.

    “I’m more motivated because I’m so close to a fight at world level. This is one last hurdle I’ve got to get over before a big fight. That’s my motivation.”

    Having fought on 22 December, Williams’ nine week and six day turnaround is the quickest of his eight-year career. Activity is often key to a fighter’s form and Williams feels well positioned to pace his year ahead.

    He said: “I’d like three fights this year. This one on Friday, one close to the summer and one at the end of the year. That’s the same pattern as last year.

    “By the time fight night comes, it’ll be my fastest ever turnaround of a fight. I’ve got to be honest with you, I could do with a couple of weeks off after this one, to tell you the truth. I’ve had a good camp, everything has gone as well as it could. I’m on good form. No excuses, I’m gonna go in there and win.

    “I feel like I might want a little break [after Mullender] but if a big fight presented itself, I’d go straight back in to camp on Saturday morning. That’s how much I want it.”

    Williams’ back-to-back training camps have given him an extended time to work with his relatively new trainer, Dominic Ingle at their Sheffield base. Their bond is growing and has even seen Ingle don the kitchen apron to prepare meals in recent weeks.

    He said: “I believe we’ve got a good relationship already. It’s improved in the space of the last 10 weeks. Living in Sheffield, I see him every day, he’s monitoring everything and I spend a lot of time with him. For the last two weeks, he’s been cooking every meal for me. I’m going over to his house, sat at his dining table and I’ve got to know him a lot better. I feel like we’ve built, so far and still, a very good relationship.

    “It’s mad to think some of the food he cooks for me is diet food but he’s a very good cook. He makes your average salad taste out of this world. It’s madness. He knows what he’s doing, in terms of macros; fats, carbs, proteins. He’s very clued up, like a book of knowledge. It’s difficult to get that kind of experience in your corner.”
     
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