Liam Williams vs. Alantez Jamal Fox

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The Machine or Sly Aza?

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  1. Williams on points

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  2. Williams by stoppage

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  3. Draw

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  4. Fox on point

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  5. Fox by stoppage

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    Official now for December 21st @ the CopperBox Arena in Hackney Wick, on the Dubois vs. Fujimoto undercard. 10 rounds @ middleweight.

    Williams is rated #4 by the WBC and #7 by the WBO. Fox is rated #12 by the IBF and is the current WBO number one mandatory challenger for Demetrius Andrade. Williams appears to be gunning for a WBO title shot, as beating Fox will see him vault up the rankings, and he is actively calling out & insulting both Fox and the champion on social media of late, calling the former "an ugly skinny rat" and referring to Andrade's style as "watching paint dry". :lol:

    Williams is the WBC middleweight Silver champion, but that belt will not be on the line here (reinforcing my guess that Williams is eyeing Andrade for easier pickings than leveraging his loftier WBC ranking to go after the famous green & gold strap).
     
    IntentionalButt, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:29 PM
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  2. Scissors

    Scissors Ex British Forum Poster. Full Member

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    Williams said in a recent (day or two ago) interview that he’s heard Andrade is going to vacate and move up to fight Saunders.

    This is Frank Warren 101. Get an eliminator for the WBO now, jump to the top of the rankings, the belt becomes vacant, fighter challenges someone not so good for it. In this case it will be Williams vs Keeler for the vacant WBO. Quote me on that.
     
    Scissors, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:34 PM
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    Odins beard Leïla Bekhti fan club Full Member

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    Williams.
     
    Odins beard, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:45 PM
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  4. ShovelHook

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    Hell I'd like to see Keeler get the shot just because he's a fellow Dub and he wants to scrap McGregor but there's no doubting Warren's shiftiness on these sorts of affairs.
     
    ShovelHook, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:47 PM
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  5. lencoreastside

    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Williams would suit Luke better than Andrade....
     
    lencoreastside, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:57 PM
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    HOW? How is Fox the WBO mandatory? Or even among their top 10? How the **** is that possible?
    ****ing blows my mind.
     
    Badbot, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:01 PM
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  7. ShovelHook

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    No doubting that at all, that's why I'd invite it. But I reckon Luke is also an easier prospect for Williams than Andrade is, especially on paper seeing as Tom Doran had the beating of him twice.
     
    ShovelHook, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:04 PM
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  8. ShovelHook

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    Because the WBO consistently have the worst rankings of all the boxing organisations.
     
    ShovelHook, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:10 PM
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    Bingo. He doesn't even hold a WBO minor title. Nor has Fox defeated any top-10 contenders since his last (unsuccessful) challenge of Andrade two years ago. He fought in a few eight-rounders, nothing that impressive. :nusenuse:
     
    IntentionalButt, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:16 PM
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    lencoreastside Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tom Doran was a long time ago. Andrade has a bad style for just about everyone.
     
    lencoreastside, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:17 PM
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    Are we all in agreement that Fox's nickname is horrendous?

    (as in "Sly Aza Fox"...)

    :shakehead:

    @CST80
     
    IntentionalButt, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:28 PM
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  12. ShovelHook

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    Andrade is the stinker machine, very tricky customer though. I know Keeler has improved a lot since then, but I'm just saying for Frank and Liam they'll be thinking Luke is easy pickings.
     
    ShovelHook, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:36 PM
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  13. ShovelHook

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    Total farce that he's there, clearly a ploy to have a gimme mandatory or vacant belt given away.
     
    ShovelHook, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:37 PM
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  14. Scissors

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    It’s quite cunning.
     
    Scissors, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:40 PM
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Tyler went away. Tyler's gone. Staff Member

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    Luke Keeler is a fine lad, decent pug and everything but let's be real. He doesn't belong in the ring with Andrade nor Williams. :nono:
     
    IntentionalButt, Dec 3, 2019 at 1:41 PM
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