Liam Williams vs. Christopher Livingstone Eubank Jr.

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The Machine or Next Best?

Poll closed Jan 1, 2021.

  1. Williams on points

    6 vote(s)
    33.3%

  2. Williams by stoppage

    4 vote(s)
    22.2%

  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  4. Eubank on points

    5 vote(s)
    27.8%

  5. Eubank by stoppage

    3 vote(s)
    16.7%
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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt ESB's own bitchy old Capote-cum-Runyon Full Member

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    Grudge match well over a year in the making. Nothing official but they're back to barking at each other via social media. Would be a great domestic scrap and solidify the #1 middleweight in the UK (although for either man, also then defeating Beefy would certainly help to hammer that nail home)

    Here's them chirping May 2019:


    ...last December:


    ...and today:
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Williams pounds him mercilessly but fails to put him away. It's the kind of beating a prime Groves would've put on him, and it's the kind of beating which shortens careers and curbs egos.
     
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  3. Chuck Norris

    Chuck Norris Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I will go with Eubank on points. Eubank Jr despite his glaring flaws (terrible footwork for example), does well against come forward fighters and if Williams isn't careful, he might get KTFO.
     



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  4. Patter983

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    Fancy Williams to box and win comfortably on points
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt ESB's own bitchy old Capote-cum-Runyon Full Member

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    I'm wondering, has CEJ fought a 1) good 2) puncher 3) in their prime? :thinking:

    • Abraham - puncher yes, but never terribly good IMO (weakest of the MW titlists of his era by far, and even more of a mediocrity at 168) and not prime when they fought.
    • Groves - puncher somewhat, and good (again somewhat) but not really prime when they fought.
    • DeGale, BJS, Chudinov, Blackwell - good, prime...not punchers.
    • Spike - puncher, prime...not good on that highest-shelf world class sense.
    • Korobov - very good but moderate puncher and definitely not prime.
     
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  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Probably Eubank but War Williams. Jr. dodged a huge bullet against Korobov. The most unlucky fighter in boxing currently.
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    Degale prime? Are you good pal?
     
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  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah Degale was definitely not prime. Prime Degale died during the Jack fight.
     
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  9. DirtyOldTown

    DirtyOldTown Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eubank stops him, he's too relentless.

    Williams has quit in him too, a severe lack of Warrior's Code.
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

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    Near enough for our purposes. :nusenuse: He was at least early thirties as opposed to Abraham, while St. George's decline was far less gradual than Chunky's. Yeah, poor night of form the first go with Truax but he reclaimed his belt soon enough.
     
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  11. MidniteProwler

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    Agreed it looked like Korobov was on the way to schooling him before the injury.
     
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  12. Brixton Bomber

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    You must not have watched James at the time, he was shot to bits.
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

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    Admittedly did not see JD vs. CEJ ...or maybe I did and blocked it out. :lol: Doesn't sound a lovely fight tbh, primes or no.

    Yes, my verdict of "near enough" to prime is from memory of the rematch with Truax. And the Jack and Truax fights weren't all that long before he fought Eubank, IIRC?
     
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  14. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Honestly seeing as Liam Smith beat this bum from pillar to post twice, Christopher gives him the Tom Doran experience

    Tom Doran would beat this bum, heck Luke Keeler would beat this bum
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt ESB's own bitchy old Capote-cum-Runyon Full Member

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    Smith has never clearly bested the superior Liam, no.
     
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