Bute had a close one with Bika due to Bika pressuring, which is not what he's proficient at to begin with. Andrade is all pressure, this is an easy fight to predict and Bute's going to get torn to pieces. Funny though, Bute would defeat Abraham with zero trouble, yet Abraham has a shot at Andrade, who's going to issue Bute with a serious beatdown.
close one with Bika? just the 3 first rounds was close after that Bute has adaptated and dominated him , that's not for nothing that Bika said after the fight that Bute was the more difficult fighter he faced off because of the style.
No, Bika won 5 rounds and took the first 3 very cleanly, do not warp the situation. Bute had to adapt to Bika's pressure, something Bika is not very skilled at. Bika is good at rough fighting and slugging, but not at uniform constant pressure like Andrade brings. Bika's workrate is also moderate, Andrade's can get up 80-100 punches a round and never relents, Bute won't have room to breath. You also have some common links with Bute. Stieglitz, a guy Andrade dominated and stopped, dominated and stopped Berrio first time around pretty easily, rematch started with Berrio losing the first 2, then getting a KO on him. Bute has a great chin, but had more trouble stylistically with Berrio than Stieglitz when Berrio pressed. You get my point? Stieglitz is a competent fighter, beat Berrio easier than Bute beat Berrio first time around and Andrade dominated Stieglitz with pressure and workrate and beat him down and stopped him. There is no logic in picking Bute over Andrade on styles and looking at opponent performance.
****, Abraham has got real power. Andrade only knows how to come foward and block punches with his face. I think Abraham might KO his ass.
That's in YOUR opinion that Bute lost 5 rounds to Bika and your way to view the fight Bute adapted very well at keeping his distance, utilise his footwork very well laterally and keeping popping his jab and leading his left over the top and that's still your opinion that Stieglitz beat Berrio more easy than Bute, i've seen the two fight. Bute had some difficulty vs Berrio not just because of Bute's agression, but a lot because Bute is timid in the first rounds, and yeah i'm still expecting this vs Andrade..To andrade to win, he must hope he hurt Bute in the first rounds to pu him in trouble water.. , Bute is a slow starter and he can adapt very well due to his intelligence, poise and his great coach. But aside from that, your points and my points are very debatable, and we are gonna need to wait to november to see which one of us is gonna predict the fight the more cleary I think that Bute's jab, laterall movement and his left cross and his stamina are gonna make him the winner, and I don,t think Andrade has the capacity to put Bute away with a lucky shot Bute UD (9-3) for me. It's a pleasure to arguing with you without you insulting me
The problem we all encounter is not knowing how hard Abraham punches. He punches very hard, but he might punch harder than that still. Maybe he punches hard enough to hurt anyone! We just don't know.
Thats the way I saw it as well. I cheered for Bute, but I was very worried til 6th round. Bute did very well to turn the table, and Bika ran out of options, and was easily taken care of from then on. There is no reason to think that Andrades' stamina isn't up for it. He had a highpaced match with Kessler with little or no interuptions from the referee., and never did he gas. He he threw more shots than Kessler in the process. Bute is an intelligent fighter, but there is nothing to outsmart. Andrade will come forward relentlessly, regardless if he is getting tagged. If Bute doesn't apply immediate footwork and dance away from Andrade after tagging him, he will be bulldozered. Being a slow starter does not bode well against Andrade.
This outcome of this fight really depends on how Abraham can take Andrade's punishment, and more importantly, how hard Abraham can hit Andrade.
There is another option, which is called on pts. Otherwise I agree. I can't see AA outscoring Andrade, even if his landing percentage is higher - he simply throws too little for this fight. Then there is the fact that Andrade is very tall, and has very long reach. AA? he has neither.
Yeah, but he has one hell of a chin and throws a hell of a haymaker who Andrade will be wide open for several times during the fight.
Andrade gets underrated on here, his recent fights prove much about him. It proves that while he's not a quick fighter, he isn't turtle slow with his movement and handspeed, he puts punches together well even if sloppy and has pretty good timing and an effective jab that he throws from awkward angles. He's harder to deal with because he appears worse than he is due to his overall sloppyness. Now, I typically don't like to see sloppy work, but since Andrade gets his work in with tacticality, unlike the even sloppier Margarito, he's better to watch. Andrade's clearly a step above Sakio Bika, Robert Stieglitz, Berrio and others and I'd only tip Kessler and Calzaghe over him at SMW, with perhaps Abraham on styles, but that depends on if Abraham has the power to crack Andrade, the chin difference between Andrade and Miranda is 5x. If Dawson could healthily make 168, I'd tip him to tool Andrade also, as well as Glen Johnson, because Andrade would have no effectiveness. But guys who aren't top in skill, like Bute and guys who aren't top in skill and durability, like Pavlik and the lot, there is no way they are going to deal with that kind of relentless pressure, because unlike Margarito as well, Margarito packs a killer punch, not accumulative love taps like some swarmers.