'Light Punching Fraud' demolishes Chisora ... Usyk next

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hope everyone had a great holiday. I just got the chance to watch the fight last night, after spending the weekend reading the round-by-rounds and such.

    Couple of points.

    THE BIG UNDERDOG WINS HANDILY

    Wilder was nearly a 3-1 underdog. (If you bet $100 you won nearly $300).

    Once again, Wilder was giving up 40 pounds against the #2 IBF contender Chisora (no one was rated ahead of him) who was hoping to end his career with the best winning streak of it (already securing wins over Joyce and Wallin.)

    Wilder entered the ring first for only the third time in his career, on Chisora’s home turf. British sportsmen and celebrities were out in force to celebrate.

    Chisora entered with one British referee (Mark Bates) and one British judge (Phil Edwards) already SECURELY in his back pocket, all but guaranteeing him a win in his 50th pro fight.

    Yet, Wilder proved, yet again, to be the turd in the British punchbowl and spoiled the party.

    Wilder won the fight cleanly, being the classic boxer to Chisora's oafish, wild swinging, tackling, fouling, windmilling mess. And with the knockdowns, Wilder should’ve dominated the cards.

    THE GUY WITH ‘NO POWER’ BOUNCES CHISORA ALL OVER THE RING

    For a guy who some here said never had any power, Wilder scored at least FIVE knockdowns in the fight – one in the fifth round, one in the seventh (when Chisora grabbed Wilder and pulled him down with him as he fell to the floor), two in the eighth and one in the eleventh.

    There was also a moment in round three where Chisora essentially called time and the referee stopped the action as Wilder was beginning to tee off on Chisora, which was never explained, and no standing eight was administered.. (Apparently, Chisora just got punched hard in the eye … nothing was ever said about it being anything more.)

    However, despite five knockdowns and one “break” given to Chisora … bizarrely, the referee only counted TWO of the five knockdowns.

    Still, Chisora couldn’t stay off the floor. Chisora also fell down in the second and in the fifth (in the middle of the ring).

    Someone in the round by round here described it as Baer-Carnera, and that wasn’t far off. I think Chisora went down or called time a total of eight times over 12 rounds.

    Not bad for a guy (Wilder) who people here still say can’t punch. (When was Chisora down eight times against someone else?)

    THE REFEREE AND THE SCORING WAS ATROCIOUS

    Both times Wilder scored a knockdown that the referee actually counted as a knockdown, the same referee immediately looked to take a point from Wilder, WHICH HE DID TWICE.

    You can’t tell me it was just a coincidence Wilder happened to have a point deduction moments after scoring a knockdown.

    The referee Bates also allowed Chisora’s corner to push him up to his feet after the first knockdown in round eight.

    When Chisora collapsed a second time that round, the referee Bates ctually pulled Chisora into the ring (the referee pulled him back in).

    And when Wilder scored a knockdown in the eleventh, it looked for all the world that the referee had no intention of calling that a knockdown either, except the ringside judge loudly began the count. Even then, the referee was talking to Chisora the whole time while he was down instead of counting. (And then, moments later, called a Wilder slip a knockdown.)

    Chisora’s best round was the fourth, where he landed his own bombs, winding up and launching them from the floor almost, but Wilder took them all.

    Wilder’s best non-knockdown rounds was the sixth, where he rocked Chisora multiple times and cut, only for the referee to again step in while he was punching to stop the action and push Wilder back.

    THE SCORECARDS DEMONSTRATE THE FIX IN THE MAKING

    In a typically close 7-5-type fight (115-113) with two knockdowns (that counted), the final score is typically 115-111.

    A 7-5 fight with five knockdowns would’ve been 115-108. (Which this kinda felt like, given how many times Chisora went down in total. It reminded me of the chaos of the Tyson-Ruddock rematch a little, too.)

    However, before the deductions, one judge had it 117-115 (or 5 Wilder/3 Chisora/4 even). And then with an extra two points off the Chisora knockdowns and the point deductions for Wilder, had it 115-113.

    A second judge had it 117-113 (or 7 Wilder/3 Chisora/2 even) for Wilder before deductions, but with the two points removed from both guys left it 115-111.

    And the third judge, Phile Edwards, somehow had it 117-114 Chisora (or 6 Chisora/3 Wilder/3 even), until the deductions brought it to 115-112 Chisora.

    Pretty scandalous giving a guy whose been on the deck or called time out for injuries 8 TIMES in a 12-round fight a three-point winner.

    FUTURE FIGHTS

    Yet, despite being tackled by Chisora , punched flush and hard after the bell by Chisora after the eleventh, having points deducted in every round he scored a clean knockdown over Chisora by the ref, and one judge voting with his heart …


    Even the announcers and British fans on the scene knew ... Wilder won the fight handily.

    So, Deontay Wilder continues on.

    We’ll see where Wilder is ranked by the IBF when the new ratings come out. Chisora was the IBF #2. Frank Sanchez and Richard Torrez were #3 and #4. Will Wilder jump up to #2? Or will he end up around #4 behind Sanchez and Torres?

    A natural eliminator would be Wilder against the winner of that fight later this year.

    That said, I believe the plan was for Usyk to take on a no-hoper until he saw the outcome of Wilder-Chisora.

    With this win, and Usyk's upcoming win over the guy with 1 win as a boxer, Wilder-Usyk seems the more likely world title fight next.

    Chisora was also the WBO#7 entering the fight, and Joshua is the WBO #4.

    So, Wilder-Joshua for a high WBO Rating seems like another play. However, the way Joshua was jumping up and down celebrating Chisora and hoping Wilder lost (he and Hearn did that when Wilder fought Parker, too) just shows THEIR CARDS to me.

    JOSHUA IS 'STILL' TERRIFIED OF WILDER

    I remember when Buster Douglas upset Mike Tyson, and while everyone celebrated, the most depressed guy in the arena was Holyfield, even though he now had an easier champ to beat.

    The way Joshua and Hearn get so HAPPY every time they are close to a Wilder fight and they think he might lose, IMO, shows how little they really want to face him.

    I'm not kidding, or trying to be sarcastic, I really don't recall a boxer and a businessman in boxing celebrating the loss of a big-money fight like Joshua and Hearn do when that big money fight is with Wilder.

    If Wilder shows up to watch a potential opponent, he always roots for that guy to win, not for the guy to lose so the fight is nixed.

    It’s not like Joshua and Chisora are best buddies or anything.

    Anyway, let's hope Wilder-Usyk happens next and happens this year. The excitement of these events only builds when the next big one comes sooner rather than later.

    Nice to know that Wilder still has enough, even with a British FIX clearly in the works … To win convincingly.

    OASIS RULES

    Nice to see Noel. We saw Oasis at Soldier Field last summer. One of the best concerts ever.
     
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  2. kirk

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    Good breakdown.

    ....

    I think youre reading the AJ reaction wrong. AJ and Chisora are relatively good friends. Think that was AJ just being happy for Chisora and the British scene there.

    Ill be shocked if AJ isnt trying to make that fight next.
     
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  3. Indiantakeaway9

    Indiantakeaway9 I'm your winkleberry that's mah game Full Member

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    ''Joshua is still terrified of Wilder''

    The head of DAZN at the time with Joshua and Hearn's blessing literally offered Wilder over 100 million to fight Joshua and Wilder then rejected the mammoth offer like a combination of a ducker and a moron.

    Stop trying to rewrite history dork.
     
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  4. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua and Chisora both trained at the same amatuer club. Chisora is part of Joshua's management company, and he has said in the past that they wouldn't fight due to their friendship.

    I'd say they're pretty close.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair enough. Doesn't explain Hearn literally jumping up and down with glee when Wilder lost a decision to Parker, however, after Hearn and Joshua spent a whole year requiring tuneups with Franklin, Helenius and Wallin.

    Parker isn't part of his management company.

    We'll see ... Yet again.
     
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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    False narrative. The money wasn't to fight Joshua. It was to sign with DAZN. Joshua immediately lost to Ruiz, so there was never going to be a fight then anyway.

    They could've fought after Joshua lost to Usyk twice, but Hearn said over and over Joshua needed more tuneups and needed more time with his new trainer.

    Then they both leapt for joy when Wilder lost to Parker. Hearn was grinning from ear to ear that night.

    We'll see ... as here we look at another go around.
     
  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    How bad is Wallin? And Fury barely beat him.
     
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  8. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    never saw a book with wilder at +300 as the money line
     
  9. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not arguing that Hearn isn't happy when Wilder loses. Wilder for all of his faults was always a legitimate danger to Joshua.

    I was just pointing out that Joshua and Chisora do appear to be friends.
     
  10. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    This was the most obvious and absurd thing I've seen in a while. They didn't even try to hide it.
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing

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    Wilder deserves some credit but this is way too many words.
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is a lot of words. ;)
     
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  13. kriszhao

    kriszhao Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To waste on a talentless bum.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Brought you out of hibernation.

    You haven't commented on a current fight since Crawford-Canelo last September.

    Alot of talentless bums have fought in the last eight months.

    I guess the answer to the questions : What would Wilder do if he traveled to a hostile territory, with a hostile ref, a hostile judge, a hostile crowd, giving up 40 pounds against a top-rated (#2) contender in the midst of a career-best win streak, after everyone decided he was shot and didn't have power anymore (if he ever did) ... has been answered.

    He completely outboxes the guy, drops him seven or eight times, blows up the fix, and STILL WINS.

    And he drags all the posters like you, who don't bother to post anymore, to roll out of the darkness to complain about it. :headbash

    Wilder rules.
     
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  15. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it fair to say now, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Wilder is the greatest American heavyweight since 90's Evander Holyfield?
     
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