'Light Punching Fraud' demolishes Chisora ... Usyk next

Scoring no less than a half-dozen knockdowns in a 12-round fight is a demolition, whether a corrupt referee, a hostile crowd, or corrupt judge chooses to count them or not.

Even the partisan announcers and former champs outside the ring thought it was bad officiating.

And Wilder had to be so dominant, or they would've taken it away from him. As it was, every time the ref had no choice but to count, he immediately, both times, took a point away from Wilder for a clear slip and a phantom push.

The only two people fighting sloppy were Chisora, who was throwing haymakers, bending over at the waist, falling down, rabbit punching, hitting after the bell, and dragging Wilder down with him when Wilder's punch floored Chisora (which was another knockdown not scored) ...

As well the ref, who, when he wasn't stopping and lecturing Wilder when he was letting his hands go for, apparently, letting his hands go, he was not calling knockdowns against Chisora, calling slips knockdowns when it was Wilder, taking away points from Wilder both times he (the ref) HAD to count over Chisora, and letting Chisora's cornerman run into the ring.

When there are three people in a ring, and two are behaving wildly erratically, your opponent and the hometown ref, clearly, you have to keep your distance and pick your shots. That's what Wilder did. He kept his cool, even in the post-fight interview.

Finally, I don't get this snide "his third best opponent" garbage. Clearly, Chisora WAS NOT his third-best opponent.

(Hell, who was Bud Crawford's third-best opponent? Car crash victim Spence or shot Kell Brook? Does it matter?)

Wilder faced better (and was better himself) eight years ago in his two knockdown, eighth successful title defense against a young, unbeaten Tyson Fury, who was better than any version Usyk fought (and who was both the Ring champ when the year began and was the #1 contender when it ended). Fury and Fury's dad both say Tyson suffered brain damage against Wilder. Wilder's three knockdown, seventh successful title defense against the unbeaten Luis Ortiz, also in 2018, was right up there. As was his tenth successful defense against Ortiz in their return. As was his title winning effort over the WBC champion Stiverne 11 years ago. As was his KO1 over the WBA #2 rated Helenius (who managed to defeat Chisora with one arm) four years ago.

As were any number of his opponents in his 10 successful title defenses against much younger and more fit opponents. But then it becomes a pissing match.

Because it's just about running him down after a clear win in a bad situation where two of the officials were working against him.

It was a scandalous night for the Brits. Round after round of bad calls and bad behavior. And it's on film forever. No amount of Wilder-bashing is going to get them out of it.

Nobody's going to watch that years from now and think it wasn't anything but a dominant win by Wilder, with a bad ref and bad cards with phantom point deductions thrown in.

 

Blah, blah, blah. You're whitewashing a huge scandal with a regurgitated argument that's years old.

The same referee who called Wilder slipping in the 11th a knockdown for Chisora ...

* Didn't call Wilder dropping Chisora with a punch in the fifth,
* Didn't call Wilder dropping Chisora with a punch in the seventh (when Chisora pulled Wilder down with him after getting hit),
* Did call the first eighth round knockdown by Wilder but then didn't count the second eighth round knockdown and instead helped Chisora back into the ring and took a point from Wilder,
* Didn't call Wilder dropping Chisora in the 11th round (until the official counting for knockdowns outside the ring forced him to) ...
* Not to mention didn't call a standing eight in the third when Wilder was battering a hurt Chisora and the ref pulled Wilder off and just stood their talking to Chisora at the end.

WTF do you call ALL that? TWO KNOCKDOWNS? Get out of here.

Not to mention Chisora's cornerman running into the ring during a fight, which is a DQ in England, if not a point deduction.

Not to mention the brutal punch by Chisora after the bell, also not called. (But a phantom push apparently is.)

It was round after round of corruption in that British ring.

So, NO, I won't just "be happy" when garbage like that happens. And you know it happened.

As for the rest, you're wrong about it all. Helenius was the WBA #2 contender when Wilder fought him, just like Chisora was the IBF #2 contender. Helenius previously beat Chisora with one arm. (He had to have major surgery afterward which nearly ended his career.)

Fury was clean, coming off two wins, was fit, young, and fought expertly against Wilder in 2018.Fury was Ring ranked at the start of the year (Champ) and was the #1 contender when the year finished and Wilder successfully defended against him. Compare him to the older, slovenly Fury, who was inactive, coming off another retirement (and whatever he was drinking or taking during that), and arguably lost to a guy having his first pro fight before Usyk faced him.

Wilder fought better versions of Fury all three times than Usyk ever faced.

Luis Ortiz was highly ranked by everyone and Ring when he fought Wilder twice. Stiverne was the WBC champ and highly ranked by Ring when Wilder beat him for the belt. And many other Wilder challengers were better, younger, fitter and had better records than Chisora on Saturday. Wilder was better then, too.

And there are hundreds of threads on this board about all that nonsense.

You're just changing the subject because you picked Wilder to lose. And even with the ref and judge in Chisora's back pocket, Wilder still dominated Chisora, knocked him all over and OUT of the ring multiple times ... and crushed him so hard they couldn't even COMPLETE THEIR FIX.

The Brits better clean up their act by this weekend. If they pull that same crap with the Fury fight on Netflix, there will be even a louder STINK about it.

That was a scandalous fight last weekend, and Wilder fought great despite it all. Because he had to or they would've stolen it.

 

The days of bashing Wilder's title opponents on this board are LONG, LONG OVER. As are picking and choosing which org or governing body or independent rating you follow.

Wilder's 13 opponents in heavyweight title fights had records of:
* 24-1-1
* 23-2
* 32-2
* 20-1
* 36-4
*18-0-1
* 25-2-1
* 28-0
* 27-0
* 20-1
* 31-1
* 29-0-1
* 30-0-1

They were all ranked by the WBC, or the Ring, or both.

None of them were in their 40s with 13 losses coming in.

There's not a guy with 1 win or NO wins in boxing on his title ledger anywhere to be found, unlike on some other heavyweight champ's records (or soon to be record).

Chisora on Saturday wasn't better than all but two of those guys when Wilder faced them, some going back 11 years ago. That's insane. Wilder isn't even as good as he was back then. Chisora sure as hell isn't.

Like I said, you just want to drag this into the weeds. You guys try to turn every thread into the same thread, regurgitating the same arguments, that mean nothing.

Wilder's title opponents were fine. Wilder's record is fine. Wilder's KO record is fine. Wilder's title run was fine.

Even at 40, he's about to enter the top 10 of multiple org's ratings over younger guys you all root for.

And he earned it by DEMOLISHING Chisora in England ... despite a corrupt British ref trying to negate every knockdown ... and a corrupt British judge who gave a guy who couldn't stay off the floor in eight of the 12 rounds and who was beaten to a bloody, swollen pulp ... a wide points win.

And despite you saying you acknowledge the bias, that IS the story. It altered every card and arguably prevented multiple stoppage opportunities.

You just don't want it brought up because you want to talk about the same tired garbage and regurgitate the same tired arguments ... when about all of us are well past that.

The scandal happened Saturday. I can talk about it all I want this week. You had your 11 years to talk about the other stuff.

 

Your 'consensus' top 10 changes with the wind, depending on the thread, and who you choose at the moment to include, and is only brought up when it suits you.

You guys have had 12 years to bash Wilder, and not only did your tired arguments not stick, he's more popular now with the general boxing public then he was when he first won a title.

You lose.

Meanwhile, Wilder is returning to the top 10 and is back in the title picture.