Who would come out on top if a mythical lighweight super six was created? The combatants will include: Henry Armstrong, arguably a top 5 all time great. Roberto Duran, great career, arguably the greatest lightweight ever. Ceasar Chavez Sr. Top 30 all time great. Alexis Arguello,. Top 50 all time great. Manny Pacquiao. Arguably one the greatest to ever lace up a pair of gloves. Floyd Mayweather Jr. Another one that has an argument for the best ever. I know throughout the history of the sport there has been many great lightweights, however, these are the 6 that are spoken of the most. So lets have fun with this, express you opinions in whatever style you want. I perfer the round by round method myself but, with so many bouts it would be too long I'm afraid. Give examples for why you choose one guy over the other, like Chavez had trouble with southpaws that had good footwork so that's why I'd pick Pac to best him.
Chavez was rated 6th best fighter in the last 50 years by the ring magazine in `96 and Arguello 8th they were both better defensively than Pac. Duran was also much better than Pac defensively. I feel Armstrong v Arguello would have been like Pryor vs Arguello except I don`t feel Hank could take Arguello`s power at lightweight as well Pryor did at light welter, Alexis was unproven at light welter. I`d say the two best here were Duran and Floyd, but I feel Duran proved himself against better opposition so I`d go for him, but I`m not sure at all.
You need to remember Mayweather had not fought Castillo yet. I beleive FM learned more from that fight than any other. I firmly believe he could be taken by Duran, Chavez and Arguello at 135. Post Castillo FM gives hell to all the greats at 135.
I concur. Duran wasted no time beating the **** out of his opponents and had the stamina and endurance to fight 15 rounds.
Like I said, these are just 6 of many great lightweights. I'm sure we could come up with another 6. And Mosely crossed my mind as well. He was a beast at 135. Pac was on a mission during his short lived time at 135 but, lets be honest, when he was at 135 I find it difficult to say any lighthweight walks right through him. During that time, he gives all ATG LW's a run for their money. Same for Mosely! Damn, imagine a Mosely/Pac showdown at 135.
The problem I think he is saying is that Pac literally had one fight at LW. So it's a little hard to say/judge. Floyd only had four. Modern weight-jumpers complicate these sort of things.
This is the argument I have with the Lomachenko praise because anybody can do it. When Broner was doing this same thing a few years ago nobody said Broner was better than anyone, they looked at his opponents and saw it for what it was, opponent cherry picking. Now Loma is just hoping division beating up easy targets and using his promoter to get out of any hard fights. Same thing Pacquiao did. One fight with Diaz and he was off to fight De La Hoya, that don't count as dominating a division.
You're right. So Floyd had 5 fights at Lightweight. Still not much in that especially when only two were against a great opponent.
I think Mosely and Whitaker should have been on the list, definitely. What a round robin that would have been
There's no reason to fixate on resume when you're evaluating head-to-head matchups. It's all conjecture, anyway. Resume comparisons are more significant when assessing respective *achievement* in a given division. I still wouldn't include Pac here, tho, because I think his best matchups are at 126 & 130. I would place Mayweather at 135, however.
Valid points! But they did fight in the division however short it may have been. So, you feel both Pac and FM would get beaten straight out because of the short stay at 135 or do you feel they could do something?