LIKE OTHER SPORTS WHOEVER SCORE THE MOST WINS,BASKET,SOCCER,BASE,HOPS vs CALZAGHE!!!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bonao, Apr 23, 2008.


  1. bonao

    bonao Member Full Member

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    Now think about this for a minute,it doesn't matter when the losing baskeball team made some nice moves during the game,,a few dunks, and then lose on the scoreboard, it don't matter if in baseball the losing team hit 5 homeruns and lost by 9 runs....etc.... same as hopkins-calzaghe ....hopkins managed to land a few nice right hand but did not score enough he was outwork down the strech, you don't win fights fighting sporadicaly. period:nono :nono :nono
     
  2. AmericanSugar

    AmericanSugar Active Member Full Member

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    boxing is different than those sports. completely different. this is a fight. hopkins was not hurt at all. joe was ineffective and landed cleanly on a couple of occasions. plain and simple, joe barely beat an old hopkins.
     
  3. Drusome

    Drusome Member Full Member

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    It's not amateur boxing. I give it to the guy who lands the harder shots most of the time. But Hopkins shots weren't as hard (except for those two rights) and Calzaghe's weren't as ineffective as some are saying. Then taking the difference in punches landed and it adds up to a clear Calzaghe win.
     
  4. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Calzaghe is no spring chciken himself, well past his prime of 2000 and there around, and Calzaghe relies on speed, the first thing a boxer loses!
     
  5. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    Calzaghe is no spring chciken himself, well past his prime of 2000 and there around, and Calzaghe relies on speed, the first thing a boxer loses!
     
  6. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't Willie Pep win a round one time without throwing a punch?

    There are other things involved in a boxing ring. If it was just about who landed most punches there would be no need for judges, you could just have a machine scoring the punches landed and decide it that way. Then there are the power of punches landed to consider.

    If fighter 1 throws off an eight or nine punch combination, but then fighter 2 bobs and weaves out of the way, doesn't fighter 2 come out of the situation looking better, and shouldn't he get credit for it even though neither fighter landed a punch?
     
  7. K0NPHL1C7

    K0NPHL1C7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins landed more clean, effective blows. As far as i'm aware, clean, effective punches are scoring punches. Grazing, slapping pitter-patter is not.
     
  8. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    It was one of the hardest fights I can remember, in terms of being able to score it.

    It depends on what you look for as a judge - the ESB report on how to judge a round was very good, but each individual judge will have certain things that they look for and prefer to see.
     
  9. sugar_ray

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    after all it is called BOXING. Punches score.. Not slaps.. Then it would be call slapping and joe would be #1 p4p in the world. Boxing is something different son.
     
  10. Vaile

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    Good point. It outlines perfectly the reasons why Hopkins won the fight, Because he scored points and Calzaghe didn't. Correct me if i'm wrong but to score a point in football, basketball, rugby, the ball has to go in to a pre designated area, in boxing the hand has to hit the head or the body...Joe didn't land clean all night and Hopkins did. I had Joe down as winning the fight by a slight margin, due to him pushing the action; but using your system i have now changed my opinion. UD Hopkins.

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  11. K0NPHL1C7

    K0NPHL1C7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ...If you consider the "punches" he threw as scoring. The way I happened to see it, he did what he always does. Jumps in and throws about 20 slapping, grazing shots that mostly connect to the shoulder/arms of his oponant, and jump out, but not after getting caught with 1-2 clean counters that were undoubtedly more effective than all 20 slaps that he missed his mark with.
     
  12. VIP

    VIP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dude, you are completely stupid. Boxing is NOT like other sports, there's no definitive scoreboard or score card like the other sports.

    As many others have noted though, compubox itself subjective and is just a couple of people pressing buttons when they think a punch is landed.
     
  13. Vaile

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    He landed 26 more than Jones. It must be said that this is against a far younger Hopkins and that Jones was throwing weighted punches as opposed to arm flurries. Sixty more power shots, you categorize anything Calzaghe threw as power punches?
     
  14. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. And that is why it's impossible to compare boxing to other sports. No one debates whether or not a basket went in, a goal was scored, etc. Boxing is much more subjective.
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    :good

    After about a dozen cans of beer, watching the fight live in the UK I had Calzaghe winning 115-113, and having watched it again yesterday afternoon I had Calzaghe winning 114-113 (I originally had the third 10-10, but changed to 10-9)