Likelihood IBF gets vacated?

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  1. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    How likely is this? Would be a shame if the belts start getting muddied up again when we're probably within a year of full unification. I would think IBF would want to stay in the Fury/Klitschko camp. There'd be way more money generated from Fury K II and then winner vs WBC champ than Glaszkov vs whoever.
     
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  2. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    There will be step-aside money paid, more likely than not.
     
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  3. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    IBF should stick to whatever rules they have and not bend them because there's more money somewhere, otherwise they will be a poor imitation of WBC/WBA and lose all the prestige they currently have.

    Glazkov vs Martin will be a pretty good fight. Since it will be for a vacant title, the winner will have to defend it against a mando within 6 months - they can arrange a Glazkov vs Martin winner vs Fury vs Klitschko II winner in late 2016 which should be a good fight as well.

    I don't think Wilder wants to fight for unification anyway, he's happy fighting nobodies and call himself the heavyweight king in his little delusional world. Let's give some newcomers a chance to be the champ. It won't hurt the sport, it will actually be better.
     
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  4. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I don't see how, when nearing the point where we can have an undisputed, unified champion, its a good thing for an org to enforce bs rules that would lead to a barely fringe top 10 guy like Glaszkov fighting a prospect to splinter off the belts and lead to more stupid confusion about who the "real" champ is.
     
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  5. Cisco Route

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    Some years back the president of the IBF was put in a federal penitentiary for under the table business dealings and not sticking to their rules. The IBF was, for a time, essentially run by the Feds. Since that time, there has been absolutely NO ****** ball from the IBF like how you see from the other sanctioning organizations. When the IBF makes you a mandatory for one of their titles - you're gonna get your shot in a timely fashion. IIRC, the ONLY thing that can legitimately delay an IBF mandatory is a unification fight. If Fury wants to keep his IBF strap then he has two options; fight his mando or fight Wilder...
     
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  6. madballster

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    If the mandatory challenger himself agrees though and takes the step-aside, and the IBF gets paid some sanctioning fee compensation, why would the IBF disagree?
     
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  7. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Glazkov already made it clear that he will fight for the IBF title. Why take step aside money when you can win the belt vs a lesser opponent and make a fortune with a unification fight? It doesn't make sense.
     
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  8. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    This is a good point. If I'm Glazkov, I do my best to enforce the mandatory. He can make way more money and look way more legitimate.

    What total bs though, that this can happen. Glazkov resume, backed by questionable wins and draws, is good, but he probably loses to at least 15 HW's right now. He's gonna steal a belt from the legit champ because of a necessary rematch clause? Which could potentially allow circumstances and boxing politics to indefinitely postpone or eliminate the chance of a unification bout? There should be something built into their rules to allow for mandatory rematches to delay enforcing mandatory bouts.
     
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  9. Cisco Route

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    I could be mistaken but I don't recall the IBF accepting any step aside deals recently. IIRC, their policy has been that the mandatory must be available to fight for the IBF title or they will assign a new mandatory challenger. Can someone here confirm if any IBF mandatory challengers have been paid step aside money recently?
     
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  10. Cisco Route

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    This is the problem with rematch clauses. The IBF doesn't like immediate rematches when their title changes hands. This should come as no surprise to Fury. Beating Klitschko essentially meant having to give up the IBF title...
     
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  11. Super Hans

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    Good chance. Fury doesn't have time to be messing about with Glazkov. Who needs him?
     
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  12. Kiwi_in_America

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    If IBF splinters off for a time, I think for awhile that would be good for the division. Let the new exciting fighters s**** it out - then big-money unification bouts.

    Great news.

    -Kiwi
     
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  13. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Yeah, cause those unification bouts are so easy to make happen. Vitali has basically been retired well over three years now, and Wlad wasn't able to unify over that time. That despite having a dominant champ like Wlad. What makes you think IBF will ever come back into the fold? This is absurd.

    And regarding cisco, Boxing organizations (much less boxing fans) should never expect a fighter to give up a belt in order to give an immediate rematch. Such a rematch is not only understandable, but also a much better, more legitimate fight than Fury vs Glaskov.

    Organizations should make an exemption for rematches against former champs who have more than 4 successful title defenses to their name. Its the only fair way of doing it.
     
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  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Isn't the purse bid on the 11th? So Fury is trashing his belt this Friday then.
     
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  15. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Organizations are about making money...they are not looking to 'organize' boxing. They don't care what's fair, sensible, or interesting...they want to wield power so as to make money, and the best way to do that is generate 'title' fights, no matter how bogus.
     
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