Limited fighter over coming a more technical fighter

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  1. Ali4life

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    Name some moments where a more limited fighter in comparison managed to overcome a more technical fighter. Maybe managed to catch him with a solid punch or just take him out of his game during the fight
     
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    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Someone that is a lesser "boxer" from the technical stand-point ??

    If so...Foreman destroying...I mean.."over-coming" Ken Norton's superior boxing skills.
     
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  5. DaveK

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    Mayorga-Forrest

    Every one of Marciano's fights (slight exaggeration, of course)
     
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    Peterson is probably more skilled, Khan is a better athlete and that's all
     
  7. Khan is the more limited fighter. He's very one-dimensional.

    Modern ''out-boxers'' are the definition of being limited IMO. All they know is to box off the back foot, using unnecessary leg and body movement to make sure they don't get hit, then step into range, flurry and retreat - repeat that throughout the fight.

    There's no inside fighting, no mid range fighting etc - it's hoping that the opponent's footwork isn't good enough to force you to do something different.

    The way a natural outside fighter in Peterson turned the tables on Khan and dragged him into a battle showed that Lamont isn't limited (stylewise at least) and showed Amir up badly.
     
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  9. Ali4life

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    If I could name someone Limited in a sense is Ali.limited in the sense of pure technical boxing leaned back to much, kept his hands low, didn't punch to the body as much, and could be caught with some left hooks or you could time him by jabbing with him like Eddie Futch had Norton do (though a difficult task to pull off ) but made up for it in speed of hand and foot(which allowed him to get away with things most fighters wouldn't have with less speed), a great chin and determination (that kept him going when his speed was deteriorating), and just a smart fighter
     
  10. Webbiano

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    I'd strongly disagree but I guess your entitled to your opinion.

    Duran-Leonard?
     
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    Rahman vs Lewis 1.
     
  13. DaveK

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    Duran is a "limited fighter"?!?!?!???!?!??

    Holy ****, son.
     
  14. techks

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    Honeyghan-Curry? Possibly?

    Tua-Moorer if that counts as a decent win for Tua? Probably not lol
     
  15. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Muhammad did have tremendous admirers among his opponents in this respect however. Folley raved about him, and Lyle effusively lauded his boxing science.

    Zora was a boxer's boxer, and Ron carried out an intelligent plan against Ali. Folley had gone 24 rounds with Machen, recently won over ten against Henry Clark (possibly the first prominent heavyweight to idolize Muhammad), and had oodles of experience competing with prominent names in the business. (Bob Foster credited Zora with actually teaching him how to box.)

    Ron was coming off a ten round loss to Young when he challenged Ali. He'd also lost over 12 to Jerry Quarry. Ellis, Bonavena, Peralta 2X, Middleton, and Bob Stallings were other talented veterans he went the distance with prior to his title shot. Later, Lyle would go the limit with Young, Bugner and Stan Ward in three consecutive bouts, but praise Muhammad for being the most scientific of all his opponents when Ron was through competing.

    Foreman has been a critic of Ali's in the sense being described here, but Muhammad has hardly suffered for lack of praise among qualified in-ring judges like Folley and Lyle. (And let's not forget that Ron was also a sparring partner of Muhammad's earlier in the 1970s, so he had ample opportunity to cultivate his appreciation of Ali's skills.)