Linares, Chavez Jr. Khan and now Pacquiao...

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  1. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Coincidence?
     
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  2. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Roach is a great trainer period.

    Everyone has a losing streak sometimes.
     
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  3. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No qualms with Freddie Roach.

    His illness is progressing, it's more apparent everytime I see him, and he still fights to do what he loves. He gave an interview last night demanding that all blame for the Pacquaio KO be directed at him.

    He's had an awful year, and it seems like it's humbled him.
     
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  4. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    Poor year for Roach
     
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  5. jakelamotta

    jakelamotta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Paper skin 2. never had solid fundamentals 3. glass jaw 4. on the decline to being shot

    BUT all with weak defense. So to a degree not.
     
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  6. Jai C

    Jai C Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nah. It's just tougher competition.
     
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  7. eviltaker10

    eviltaker10 Active Member Full Member

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    Roach is overrated Coach. Period.
     
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  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    i guess guys are supposed to win forever

    with those 3 guys he still has about a 96% win rate.

    i guess thats a failing grade as a boxing trainer.
     
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  9. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All the other guys I mentioned had their flawes long before Roach got them. But Linares was GIFTED!!! Speed, Athleticism, Raw Skill and Talent...how Roach could not refine that is just ridiculous.
     
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  10. MannySteward

    MannySteward Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Linares has losses before and after Roach
     
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  11. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seemed like there was nooone else to cherry pick, and faced better skilled opponents
     
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  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Linares is not meant for boxing. Look at Berto. He has all the speed and athleticism he needs and you can add to that a big heart but he doesnt have the mindset of a boxer. There are many gifted athletes in boxing but that doesnt mean that they are meant to beboxers(Dawson).
    So true.


    Roach did a lot for Khan. He turned Jr into a top contender and made Pacquiao anoffencive beast. If Roach knew more about defense... Will always be a what if situation. Roach is a great trainer.
     
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  13. locard

    locard Boxing Addict banned

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    at least Vanes didn't lose
     
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  14. ITS BOUT SKILLS

    ITS BOUT SKILLS Member Full Member

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    Got alot of respect for Roach mainly for his love of the sport. But the guy cares to much about the Knock Out. I'm ovioulsy not in the gym with him everyday but from watching him train fighters and then watching them perform it sure seems like he dosent care much for the fundementals of boxing ie bringing the hands back to your dome, staying tight, elbows in ect. Sorry to say Roach fans but as a trainer i give him a C- and thats being genorous.
     
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  15. ITS BOUT SKILLS

    ITS BOUT SKILLS Member Full Member

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    Ill put it to you like this: If Pacquio never walked into the Wildcard Pacquiao would still be a house hold name and only the die hards would know the name ROACH
     
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