Linares-Larios, let's see what you think...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Amsterdam, Apr 28, 2008.


  1. jaco

    jaco Thomas Hearns Full Member

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    Linares is a solid fighter especially for his age, but i don't see him becoming a P4P superstar like some. Watching him fight you can se he clearly has a lack of defence, his head movement is very poor and he gets caught with shots he shouldn't. He relies on his footwork to keep him out of trouble and i think that could hurt him if he comes up against a pressure fighter who can cut off the ring. He has solid skills, decent speed and power, but I don't think its enough to beat the Elite if he moves up to 130.

    I don't think he has great power like some say, it took him a long time to wear down a past it 122lber who was tailor made for him. Vasquez sparked Larios in 3 rounds. Despite his flaws i tihnk he can beat everyone at 126(A weak division), with the exception of Gamboa.

    All in all he is a good young fighter who will need to improve in order to compete with the elite.
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :yep
     
  3. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Lets not forget that Manny Pacquiao failed to stop Larios, at even higher weight than he fought Linares at.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Plenty to do with Pacman's limitations and the way Larios fought that night than anything else, Linares also recieved a more declined version, one that had struggled with some cans prior to facing Linares.
     
  5. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember watching the fight live and thinking how fantastic Linares looked at the time, but when I watched it back a second time there were flaws to see; in some of the rounds he seemed to be having a hard time of it when Larios really started to throw the punches-in-bunches, had lazy spells when he attempted to get on his bike and win the fight on sporadic bursts of punches, and despite excellent footwork his upper body/head movement isn't the best.

    I haven't had a chance to watch the fight with Gamaliel Diaz, except for the superb KO, but I heard he struggled early on in that fight.

    But he still has time to refine his technique and looks a very good prospect in my eyes.
     
  6. Sonny Carson

    Sonny Carson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't respect anything you say, you know nothing about boxing. You put down Kelly Pavlik and Linares has more physical talent than he had. Linares's speed is very underrated and he has good punching power.
     
  7. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    i saw this fight in its entirety and Linares won it easy. Basically picking off all of Larios' shots and then landing his own crisp combinations to Larios' body and head. The whole time you could see Larios was losing his energy and Linares was keeping his while not getting hurt. It was painfully obvious that Larios would have nothing left in the later rounds, and he didn't

    I had Linares winning almost every round into the knockout

    Great fight for Linares.



    Linares has a thing or 2 to teach to Chad Dawson about how to fight someone like Glen Johnson effectively.

    Right now, p4p Linares > Dawson
     
  8. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I think this is a case of Linares pacing himself properly for a 12 round fight and letting Larios blow his load while blocking almost all his punches.

    Linares beat Diaz super easily. He won every round but 1, with another that could have gone either way. He also knocked down Diaz in the 4th and then out in the 8th

    he really really did not struggle
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Linares' main flaw right now is the way he often leans back to avoid punches. Against the faster punchers with good timing that could spell trouble.


    Also you can discredit his defence if you want but you have to recognize at least that in that fight against Larios, nothing flush landed on him. Pretty good defense there.
     
  10. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Yeah, in reflection it was only back and forth in certain spots. But where does Linares have anything to do with teaching Dawson to fight a tricky pressure fighter?

    He has yet to face one and I don't think there is one at 126 in Johnson's calibre.

    Robbert Guerrero should be a good fight to Linares.
     
  11. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't just fail to stop him, he was more badly hurt in that fourth (third?) round than I've ever seen him in the ring (excluding the early days of course), and that includes the first Morales fight. But between age, motivation, and styles, that Larios pretty clearly wasn't the same fighter as this Larios.
     
  12. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    So you like Linares over Guerrero?
     
  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    really? wow. Pacquiao was wobbled a little in the third but even in that round he did pretty well for himself and I think one of the judges even gave it to him. Larios came in great shape against Pacquiao and I don't think that its a case of Pacquiao being unable to KO Larios as much as Pacquiao having such an easy time outboxing him that there was no need to go for a KO against someone who was in such great shape. I'm sure he had a mentality of "I'll just do my thing, and if the KO comes, I'll take it." It just never came. Full credit to Larios for that. He was in phenominal shape and looked like a much better fighter against Pacquiao than against Linares.