Only if those "top 2 contenders" are clear cut and universally recognized as being established as the top 2. Preferably they would have recently eliminated the rest of the field, ie. the group who make up places 3-6 or so in any reasonable rankings.
You are unlikely to see clarity in the sport, because not least nothing or no one is neutral. Everyone and everything is boxing has an agenda, that warps their viewpoint.
The problem isn't the agenda, the problem is the amount of influential people with differing agendas. UFC is ran by one greedy corrupted company but at least every fighter is on the same page and to be the best they know who they have to beat. No ducking, no posturing, no bs catch weight negotiations, just the best fighting the best.
Yes, it always was the case. When a champion retired there was usually a load of 'claimants' and only when one of them cleaned up by beating all the others was he considered to have established a new lineage. Sometimes a promoter or group of promoters would agree an elimination tournament of 4 or 8 contenders to establish the new champ.
The second paragraph is correct. The first paragraph is total nonsense. I could list loads of examples to the contrary but I'll let you look into it yourself and learn something. Since the proliferation of belts lineage is debateable in terms of meaning, criteria and relevance. Before that however there is very clear lines of succession that are beyond debate.
You're mistaken. The early days of lineage (long before the ABC organizations and their multi belts) are full of eras where rival claimants had to establish themselves by eliminating rivals. And who decided who was "number 1 and number 2" back in the old days anyway ? Some boxing historians have retroactively tried to impose clarity on some championships in eras of confusion but even they have periods that can't pretend had proper lineage.
In the days of the claimant system at the inception of the sport, that happened. But since then it has just been the top two contenders facing off. Who decides is a good question. I think Jeffries decided the two to face off for his old belt, but after that i couldn't tell you. Maybe it's just coincidence that almost every vacant championship was competed between the number 1 and 2 contenders.
A lot of people didn't take Jeffries' selection of Hart and Root too seriously. I guess many expected Jeffries to come back some time anyway. Tommy Burns struggled to be accepted as a world champion. He travelled to England, Ireland, France and Australia in an effort to prove himself and establish himself as the real champion, and eventually broke the color line too. I'm not following you when you say "maybe it was just coincidence", because most often the vacant title was contested by either the 2 men who had eliminated the other contenders, OR was contested by 2 men who were simply promoted as so by the promoters (with help from press and magazines) who control the sport. There's no coincidence.
So you think when the promoters offered up a title fight, the magazine and press decided to laud them as the top two contenders?
Unforgiven, I've read back through the exchange and I don't actually understand your overall point. Donaire and Nishioka were the top two men. That is enough to crown a new champion by the lineage of 1v2. You might not like the lineage or the criteria but it's beyond dispute. It's one that stands the test of time. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant, Donaire and Nishioka were the top two hence the winner being crowned champ.
Often, yes. Sometimes it's the other way around, or it is synergistic. The press builds someone up, the promoters build someone up, the rankings reflect the potential interest in the fights. etc. Hey, that's how professional boxing game works.
I think the lineage is fine.. The current lineal champion may not be desirable or impressive but that's life.. We saw fragmented titles in the 70's, 80's, 90's and 2000's. Unifications only really mean something if the one guy holding the odd belt is worth anything.. Who really wants to see Tyson Fury fight Lucas Browne or Charles Martin? Wilder vs Fury would be good and I think we'll see that soon.
My point about Donaire and Nishioka was : "Is the lineage of the 122 pound division at all important ?" As I understand it the division 'world championship' was invented in 1976 by the WBC, one of the organizations responisble for proliferation of titles, at precisely the time when proliferation of titles and splintered titles were starting to discredit the sport. Rigoberto Riasco beat Waruinge Nakayama for the inaugural title. I tend to think of lineage worth preserving or establishing in divisions with have a more prestigious history. That's all.