Lineal champions that Toyko Douglas could beat

Could? All of them.
Tokyo tyson was not THAT terrible. He was actually coming on in terms of offense and landed punches in the last few rounds despite getting increasingly wobbled. Both guys were getting wobbled in the last few rounds in tokyo, tysons body just couldnt take it because of the previous accumulation of punishment from the first 7 rounds.
He was maybe a few pounds heavy and not 100% sharp and ready for the fight of his life but it was still prime tyson.


Bowe struggled with tubbs, never saw him do well against a mover his own size with a quicker, heavier jab and much better feet like tokyo douglas.

Lewis might lose also, chin can be dented and douglas is the more active fighter with more punch volume. Lewis has a clear strength and power advantage but i see him gassing if he tries to keep up with douglas activity and getting knocked out if he doesnt do enough and becomes complacent.

Any version of Holyfield from Bowe 1 onward might lose, Holyfields punch outpu stared decreasing with the holmes fight as he gained muscle. That didnt hurt him against big hitters like Bowe and Tyson, infact the extra strength was a strategic choice. But i dont see giving up activity and punch volume as a smart choice against tokyo douglas.

Tokyo douglas beats both vitaly and Wlad imo.


Dont forget that you are talking about a specific version of a fighter who showed near superhuman motivation for one night.

 

I hope you was being ironic

 

There's a few more that Buster fighting like he did in Tokyo would beat.
Patterson
Ingo
Sharkey
Carnera
Schmeling

 

I disagree about patterson. He was too fast and killed and douglas was not a huge puncher

 

Sorry Combat ,but much as I like Floyd I see him losing. Douglas to heavy handed here .He'd control the fight with the jab ,catching Patterson repetitive .Floyd s fast hands keep him in the fight I'll say but I'm guessing a Ali type stoppage win against Floyd ,somewhere around the 10 th .With Patterson stopped on his feet but the ref seeing enough.

 

I don’t see why 70s Ali would be off limits. Or Norton. Or Patterson. Or the limited versions of Liston who showed up against Ali.

 

I meant that douglas never was a huge puncher,in fact he was not even a puncher

 

And you think he was an angel before? His dedication started slowly slipping as soon as cus died. He went into the berbick fight with gonorrhea and dissappeared from training camp for 3 weeks before the tucker fight, he had all kinds of BS going on around him before he fought spinks.

According to his autobiography he only really did his homework for Holmes , Biggs(because he hated him) and ruddock(because he was almost scared of ruddock, in his book he actually flat out admits to ducking him in 1989)


Watch the douglas fight again. Tyson doesnt look that terrible at first just a half second off his timing and not really om fire.
The real problem was that he wasnt used to getting hit and looked clueless for a long time while douglas started kicking the **** out of him, by the time he started really landing his own shots it was the 7th or 8th round and he was worn out.

Thats why i think tyson really should get credit for his ruddock performances, he was really really conditioned and showed great heart, mental strength and reacted to getting hit like a warrior. he always responded with hard punches of his own instead of just trying to force a clinch or just standing there like a punching bag. So even if he didnt look the same as with rooney, the fact that he actually fought like a warrior instead of forcing clinches makes up for it.

 

He dropped and almost knocked out jesse ferguson with a jab. He was just lazy.
Patterson does literally nothing better than even tokyo tyson. Pattersons style was a primitive version of tysons. Tyson used a much more evolved version of the cus damato style.
Tokyo tyson takes a 10 time better punch than patterson as well.
Douglas has another 15 pounds on liston and could just walk Floyd down and butcher him.


Patterson is giving up 45 pounds!!! Against a guy who gave one of the best(imo the best) SHW boxing performances ever. Douglas moved and fought with the fluidity and coordination of a middleweight that night. I have literally never ever seen a SHW move that well ever before or after.
Plus he was ready to die to win that tile.

 

Carnera??? Blasphemy!!! Stone that man who has blasphemed!!!!!

 

Perhaps on that night he beats Patterson, but some versions of Patterson could maul many versions of Douglas. But yeah on that night, I'll take Douglas.

 

Yeah but he was a 230 pound super heavy landing a high volume of flush shots. I think he could've hypothetically speaking put any heavy, modern or otherwise, away if he could have landed those type of flush shots coupled with that volume.

 

Actually, I think Douglas dad boxed as a middle weight and light heavyweight.