List 1fight that perfectly demonstrated a fighter's style, attributes, &/or identity.

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  1. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Pick one fight (or maybe two) for any one fighter or fighters that you think perfectly demonstrated the kind of fight they like to fight, what they are best at, how their offense/defense works, the way they approach different specific scenarios, their overall style, and their tendencies as fighters. Basically, the kind of fight you would present to a curious friend who wanted to know what a particular fighter was all about not having seen them in action before.

    It doesn't have to be a non-competitive beat-down or anything, because frankly that hardly showcases a fighters broader ability. However usually the fighter of discussion is dominant and isn't faced with the adversity of perhaps their greatest, most dominant or impressive wins due to the difficulties presented by the opposite fighter or the ease of a mismatch, which may distract from the visible characterization of the fighter of discussion.

    I have a lot of fun doing this type of thing since it makes me appreciate the specifics which make great fighters their own men with their own identities.

    Some of my (overly intricate) examples:

    Juan Manuel Marquez VS Terdsak Jandaeng- In this fight, Marquez starts of slow as usual, setting a measured pace bobbing that left arm up and down when circling, throwing two shots at a time and the occasional combination early on. He parries shots very well and shows fairly elusive head/ foot movement, very economical and technically sound. As the fight progresses, Marquez starts to pick up the pace while his opponent comes forward, landing combinations and right hand leads. He periodically goes to the body throughout. His southpaw's opponent left hand cause a bit of swelling and Dinamita shows he doesn't mind taking a few to punch with his opponent in an exchange. After hurting his opponent with a perfectly timed counter-uppercut, he smells the blood and he shows he has a killer instinct and a finishing offense. Soon his opponent recovers from a left-counter knockdown, and the pace resumes to a boxing match. Ad******g further with his brain and laying on more and more leather to satisfy his fighting heart, the combinations and counter-uppercuts take their toll and several knockdowns lead to a finish to the fight in the seventh round.

    Classic JMM.


    Manny Pacquiao VS Antonio Margarito- Here, Pacquiao has once again reprises his role as the smaller man taking on an even bigger (if less skilled) opponent in Margarito. At the start, Pacquiao gets into his familiar guard and hoppy stanced rhythm, and it doesn't get long before his offense gets going. Using his quick feet and quick hands, Pacquiao darts in and out landing multiple clean shots in fluid combination. Always circling, Pacquiao is able to avoid most of Margarito's shots, but doesn't try overly hard to evade the occasional jabs and right straights that make their way clean onto his face. Throughout the first four rounds, Pacquiao uses his speed to overtax Margarito's defense and open shots to the body, with one left straight in particular eventually seeming to fold over Margarito's profile. In the mid rounds, Margarito's style and size catches up with Pacquiao in several moments. Pacquiao does not shy away from a few big shots that land, and before escaping, commits to trading and making it a point to out-land Margarito. After eating some monstrous uppercuts and a debilitating body shot, Pacquiao simply touches his gloves and asks for more. After a cut develops on Margarito's face, Pacquiao seems to consistently land 7 shots for every 2 thrown by Margarito, and simply glides to whichever place he wants, always in complete control.

    The damage warrants a stoppage by the tenth round that never comes from the ref or corner, and Pacquiaos willingness to fight, technical versatility, and raw talent are showcased better than ever by the sound of the final bell.

    (Some say it is easy to look good against Margarito and easily forget how impressive he looked before the scandal; Sure, Mosley did it too, but Pac had to use more than just the speed and power which Mosley showed, who has had better showcases of his skills and abilities in his career so I wouldn't highlight the Margarito fight for Sugar Shane.)



    I look forward to seeing what fights you guys pick for each fighter. I think I'll post a few more soon once I look through some videos.
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Really, nothing? Maybe this would have done better in the classic forum.

    Oh wait, I know what to do: Sergio Martinez is the new GOAT! Pac is ducking him! Floyd is some sort of scared bird!
     
  3. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Winky over Tito.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

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    Joe Frazier VS Bob Foster

    Nicolino Locche VS Takeshi Fuji

    These fights were set up perfectly to show everything that made Frazier a beast and Locche a slickster. Not their best opponents but real showcases and Locche's fight is in my top ten or so "clinics" of all time at the world class level.

    :lol:
     
  5. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Good thread.

    I's say James Toney over Iran Barkley - Toney showed his defensive skills, his accuracy, his power, and his well roundedness as a fighter in that fight. Barkley was a tough cookie, and as we all know, he beat Tommy Hearns twice and was a tough bout for anyone. Toney stood toe to toe with Barkley, stood in front of him, and threw big hard fast shots whilst slipping Barkleys shots. It was a beatdown of epic proportions. It showed the world how good Toney was, how fast, how slippery, how powerful. It cemented his position on pound for pound lists, and made him a force to be reckoned with until Roy came along. That was the Toney we all fondly remember, a far cry from the fat, slurring ******* of today.
     
  6. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Duran vs the bigger and stronger Davey Moore - talk about a fight they needed to stop to save the bigger guy! Classic infighting and toughness.

    Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Roger Mayweather II - you see Chavez' problem with speed, but the toughness, good slipping, and precise punching style allows him to beat a technically superior adversary who just can't take his punch.

    Rafael Marquez vs. Vazquez II - you get to see both at their best, and why you can never count out a puncher like Vazquez, as in his fight with Gonzales. Great heart and power from both.

    Mayweather vs. Corales - check out the slow motion replays. EVERY time Chico lowered his right hand to throw, floyd saw it and hit him with a left hook. True superiority in knowing what an opponent was going to do before he did. In regular speed it looked like Chico was not throwing, but every time he started to Floyd had already hit him and stopped the punch. Just sick in slow motion, the best Floyd we will ever see, way better than the Gatti version even.

    Hearns vs. Cuevas or Duran - sick power, you can see what a destructive whirlwind he was against tough guys when you didn't check that chin or have the skill of Sugar Ray.

    Barrera vs. Hamed or Juarez II - the adjustments Marco made in the second Juarez fight showed how easily he could outbox an opponent who could physically challenge him, and the Hamed fight was brilliant.

    Hamed vs. Sanchez - you saw all of Hamed's flaws, but also all of his amazing firepower and offensive arsenal.
     
  7. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mosley over Margarito. The only hispanic who ever troubled Mosley (besides Mora, that was not a fight) was Mayorga, who is a bit different than the traditional Mexican sluggers. I feel Mosley is better than Floyd at fighting stationary Mexican style strong guys (he would have beaten Hernandez, Castillo, Chavez, etc. easier than Floyd) and Floyd is better at fighting mobile black opponents (can't see Floyd as frustrated against Forrest or Winky, though I can see him being physically not able to compete and just pot shotting)
     
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    Alexis Arguello vs. Escalera.
    Jose Napoles vs. Hedgeman Lewis
    Pernell Whitaker vs. Greg Haugen
     
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    Paul Williams vs Margo

    This was PW's best fight he fought tall and at HIS range....he wont that fight convincingly and it was a very good fight between two top dogs.....but for some reason he has strayed away from fighting in that manner which gives him his best chance to win! I blame it on the second fight with Q......he went all out and got an early KO and i think it felt good to him and he fell in love with that style.
     
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    Bump to add a highlight made by some guy for Locche/Fuji:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8aerkHG_7A[/ame]
     
  11. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    DLH is hispanic and he more than troubled Mosley. Many think DLH beat a roider Mosley the second time. Love Mosley, but it is what it is.
     
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    emmanuel vs marg

    His one victory that I enjoy watching.
     
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    Pac vs all the boxers he fought that are supposedly tailor made for him.
     
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    Tua vs Ruiz.
     
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    Mayweather vs. Ndou