List all of the reasons modern fighters would beat older fighters

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Both for heavyweights and for the other weights.

    Go.
     
  2. McGrain

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  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Good list. A little long-winded, perhaps...
     
  4. McGrain

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    It's why I have such a high post count.
     
  5. The Whaler

    The Whaler My dog be thorough. Full Member

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    They're bigger on average, though that comes with advantages and disadvantages.

    Better nutrition and an understanding of proper diet, I guess.

    More participants in the sport, though I can't quote any figures. There may actually be less.

    Supplements and roids.

    State-of-the-art training methods.
     
  6. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Nice avatar. Mine is a self-portrait too.
     
  7. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Holyfield's headbutt will break the stalemate.
     
  8. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    I'll add a few more...

    1) Greater professionalism in the sport = better fighters

    2) Superior technique

    3) All sports evolve, so this one must too

    4) More rest in between fights

    5) Safer amateur fights

    6) The fact that they don't get involved in wars gives them more experience

    7) Fewer professional fights = less damage sustained
     
  9. McGrain

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    This only applies to heavyweights of course.

    No. Fighters then knew exactly what they should and shouldn't be eating. In Jack Johnsons book he explains the benifits of getting protein without eating to much read meat and eating fruit and veg etc. Of course not everyone lived to these tenants (Greb etc.) but there are those who haven't in every era (Monzon etc.).

    Well in pitsburgh in the 1940's there were 5-7 boxing shows every week and the best athletes were as likely to get involved in boxing as American football.

    Of course, there weren't as many Croatians boxing.

    I want to see statistcal proof taking into account the great dominance of other sports over boxing now before I will acknowledge the more fighters now.

    I think that boxing is a lot less roided up than people seem to believe. Certainly MMA is worse of for example.

    Fighters spar less now because it's safer. They work pades instead because it's safer. Whether it makes them better fighters in peak years is debatable. But almost certainly not.
     
  10. McGrain

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    ...I don't actually know what this means...

    Not so far as I can see. But I'm prepared to admit I may be missing something.

    Boxing is special.

    This is a good one. But anyone who argues, "a modern fighter would be more rested than a past fighter so would be more likely to win" is grasping - because the reverse is also true.

    This should be in another thread entitled, "reasons past boxers would beat modern boxers.
     
  11. The Whaler

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    I think cross was joking.
     
  12. cross_trainer

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    Something like...

    "Fighters are more likely to be full-time professional athletes, whereas guys like Walcott were working on the docks. They also have a greater amount of money at their disposal to train, more backing, and a larger support staff."

    I call this Argumentum ad Cinderellamanicus.
     
  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Heavyweights......size.

    Other weights......Floyd mayweather is boxing NOW, not back then :yep
     
  14. Amsterdam

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    Some are flat out supernatural, old guys are just legendary.

    Supernatural>Legendary.

    Your entire attempt here CT is now debunked.:yep
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Usually legendary people are pretty good at beating supernatural stuff. St. George and the Dragon, Beowulf and Grendel, Red Riding Hood and an anthropomorphic wolf...

    Now, if modern fighters were more scientific....