List all of the reasons modern fighters would beat older fighters

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  1. The Whaler

    The Whaler My dog be thorough. Full Member

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    Boxers are prettier on average these days. Back then they all had lumpy heads and flat noses.

    Also: no Jean-Francois Bergeron. Seriously, was boxing even worth watching back in the day?
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Niiiiiiice.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The majority certainly seemed to think so.

    But I think that the reason that so many more people watch other sports as opposed to boxing is that those sports have improved, whereas boxing has remained the same in terms of quality.

    Bar the 12 rounds instead of 15. That obviously made boxing worse to watch.
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yes, yes. Appearances and Bergeron are givens.

    But what else is there? And why?
     
  5. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Could Joe Louis beat Bergeron? A prime, focused Bergeron.
     
  6. The Whaler

    The Whaler My dog be thorough. Full Member

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    Yes, but once again may I remind you: No Jean-Francois Bergeron. Without him, boxing was like mashed potatoes without the gravy.
     
  7. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Joe Louis could not beat Bergeron prime-for-dead. Which would never happen anyway, because Bergeron cannot die.
     
  8. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    roids:hey

    and tshernobyl in some eastern euro cases ( see sasquatsh aka valuev)
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Without him, boxing is like mashed potatoes without mashed potatoes, gravy, eating utensils, a plate, and the human race.
     
  10. The Whaler

    The Whaler My dog be thorough. Full Member

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    Boxing needs Bergeron, just like Kathy Lee needs Regis.
     
  11. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fighters are bigger, thats it. Fighters now are not as tough as older fighters, now you have fighters quiting on there stools instead of going out like a man. Even the toughest fighters seem to now quit instead of going out on there back, guys like Tyson, Vitali, Brewster all gave up.
     
  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Fixed.
     
  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Seriously, though...please post any other reasons or arguments for modern fighters being better than "old timers". Can no one take up the challenge?
     
  14. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Lonely...

    Oh so lonely...
     
  15. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    I want to say that diet and exercise and the science behind it are better now adays, but then again I honestly feel very few fighters benefit from it, since I don't know how many use it to an advantage.

    The ability to analyze lots of tape on fighters in the digital age, but this would be as much of an advantage to both (considering you moved past into present)

    I do think guys are bigger in their own weight class (yes, weight is the same, but size isn't always consistent to weight, but people are bigger, and the ability to drain weight to make weight, along with new diets, can mean you can in fact be a better inshape 147 with a bigger frame and more strength than say 1950) This of course assumes that someone is using a workout/diet program that is high-tech and state-of-the-art. Not every fighter does.

    The biggest thing I think is that more guys are full-time fighters, and with only 2 to 3 fights a year, they have a lot of time to train and focus on fighting, assuming they actually use the time effectivley, but the money in the game today gives that option to more fighters. They don't have to take tomato can fights monthly to make a living.

    Of course, the added money could also be considered a negative, as it causes some fighters to lose the hunger when they are rich, and leads to them getting complacent and distracted.

    Hmm.. the Bergeron argument is also good though.

    ...also no Reggie Strickland.