List all of the reasons modern fighters would beat older fighters

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  1. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    Something that happens in most sports is old-timer nostalgia. In basketball, you have people claiming that athletes from the 1950s with half the foot speed would kill modern stars.

    It's ironic, because in the few sports in which we can directly compare current performers to old timers, modern athletes are far superior. For example, track and field.
     
  2. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    As for a reason - well, people are better athletes these days.
     
  3. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The measurable sports you allude to include:

    * Olympic weightlifting
    * Powerlifting
    * Track and field
    * Swimming (to some degree)

    Any others I'm missing?
     
  4. MrStayman

    MrStayman Active Member Full Member

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    :think
    Cycling
    Sharpshooting
    Kayaking

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    Baseball, in terms of homerun count.
     
  5. unitas

    unitas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tv. makes you look bigger. adds at least ten pounds. valuev is only 5ยด10 in real life...:-(
     
  6. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    The one thing boxing has going for is that the idea and technology of the sport has changed so little since the gloved era has begun.

    Sure rings are better for the most part, gloves more consistent. Yet with the weight limits of classes, you more or less can compare one era to the other much easier.

    I think nostaligia overrates the past too much though.
     
  7. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not always....
    Heavyweights are bigger --- sure.
    Check out the other divisions where fighters must way the same.
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Botox ?
     
  9. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Sharpshooting is rather borderline, and baseball is dependent on the quality of the opponents. But cycling is especially good for our purposes.
     
  10. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it just size for the HWs really? I mean, 80 years ago I doubt middleweights were as big as Jermaine Taylor or Kelly Pavlik.

    Lighter schedules means you can cut weight for a fight easier. I'm not 100% sure about the numbers or anything, but I imagine that fighters of today cut weight better than fighters of long ago.
     
  11. joeboxer

    joeboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i'm not sure they would have an edge at other weights. for heavyweights you would have to make it fair by putting either the modern fighter at the old nutritional and training standards and the old fighter at the modern standards.
     
  12. Sakura

    Sakura Boxing Addict banned

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    Most are probably gays, so old folks stay far away to win fights..newbies UD
     
  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    - Superior physical training in part due to better knowledge on training methods, knowing the existance of different kind of muscles fibres - the benifits of this are generally visible on tape, where bar a Robinson here and there, the top level fighters todays visibly look quicker.

    - Globalisation of the sport, the influx of Mexicans and Asians at the lower weights makes the benifit here quite apparent.

    - Steroids and legal supplements

    - Fighters fight less frequently now, though it has a tiny negative effect of experience, the fact that these frequent fights effect training mean there is an overall benifit to todays way.

    - Videos of old fighters can now be studied, the volume of such libaries obviously increases over time.

    - Easier to fly in foreign sparring partners.

    - Fighters are larger at all weights.

    - Fighters tend to live the lives of professional athletes now.
     
  14. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You'd think so, but people will deny these things, and we end up going round in circles, with arguments like the following.

    "But what about global warming and pollution? The air and heat must effect todays fighters and make then inferior to their 1940s counterparts."