list your all time top 10 p4p ratings.

How you've only put Chris Byrd in the honourable mentions and not the top 10 is beyond me!!!

Other than that, a very solid list!!


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Is this a joke?

 

1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Roberto Duran
4. Muhammad Ali (shrink him down and he's even faster)
5. Marvin Hagler
6. Julio Cesar Chavez
7. Pernell Whitaker
8. Willie Pep
9. Michael Spinks
10.Roy Jones Jr.

Honorable mention: Ezzard Charles, Carlos Monzon, Jose Napoles, Emile Griffith, Bob Foster, Barney Ross, Benny Leonard, Tony Canzoneri, Alexis Arguello, Salvador Sanchez, Azumah Nelson, Sandy Saddler, Carlos Ortiz, Archie Moore. There are others...

 

Franken has to be an alias.Nobody could be this ****ing stupid.

 

1. Armstrong
2. Robinson
3. Charles
4. Greb (could be higher if I'd actually seen him fight)
5. Langford
6. Walker
7. B. Leonard
8. Louis
9. Whitaker
10. R. Leonard

Honorable Mention: Ali, Duran, Ross

 

That opening list is nonsense. However, it really pisses me off that some people are very stubborn and insist that certain fighters must be in the top 10. Yes, some fighters are certain top 10's but not all. Depending on someones list of course.

Some people don't include fighters like Whitaker or Leonard in a top 10 simply because they had just over 40 fights. Leonard beat the likes of Duran, himself at least a top 15 P4P fighter. Hagler, one of the greatest middleweights ever, Benitez, Hearns, etc. He's got one of the best resumes of all-time. What would he need to do to crack into mostly everyones top 10 on here? Probably have over 80 fights with the vast majority of those being against mediocre and journeyman quality.

It seems that a fighter simply keeping busy, no matter the quality of opposition, scores very highly with some.

 

1. Bob Fitzsimmons
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sam Langford
4. Harry Greb
5. Joe Louis
6. Jack McAuliffe
7. Muhammed Ali
8. Benny Leonard
9. Ray Robinson
10. George Dixon

 

I dont think that people realise just how many great fighters there have been. If you want to be in the top 10 pound for pound fighters ever, then you pretty much have to start by being the best fighter of your decade in your natural weight class. Then you have to be better than than the other 10 or so fighters in your decade that were the best in their chosen weight class. But even if you achieve this status, there are still another 12 or so fighters that have also achieved this in their own decade, so if you arent that standout fighter, it is unlikely you will be in the top 10. If you are for example the third best fighter (as one of Leonard, Hagler or Duran must have been) then you may not be even in the top 30! I think that if you havent spent at least 10 or so years as a stand out and dominant fighter then you have very little chance of cracking the top 10 on any reasonable list.