:nono Each to their own, but this doesn't make sense. Froch above Ward, really when Ward beat him easy? And how is Ward too inactive when he fought the same time Froch fought last year and he got a better result. As for you saying who has Rigondeaux beat apart from Donaire? Well Donaire was considered a top 10 P4P fighter (still is IMO) and even top 5 in some peoples list when Rigondeaux schooled him.
1. Wladimir Klitschko 2. Andre Ward 3. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 4. Manny Pacquiao 5. Guillermo Rigondeaux 6. Sergio Martinez 7. Timothy Bradley 8. Juan Manuel Marquez 9. Nonito Donaire 10. Carl Froch
1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Andre Ward 3. Manny Pacquiao 4. Guillermo Rigondeaux 5. Wladimir Klitschko 6. Timmeh 7. Juan Manuel Marquez 8. Mikey Garcia 9. Nonito Donaire 10. Adonis Stevenson
ward has just had 2 fights in almost 3 and a half years beats the china chinned dawson and rodriguez ? you're saying that's better than what pacman has done for starters in the last 4 years ? dawson and freeking rodriguez ? beating bute mack kessler groves shits all over dawson and rodriguez in my book He's beaten chad glass jawed dawson and rodriguez in almost 3 and a half years and you are saying that is better than what everyone else has done ? okay if it's a p4p list based purely on boxing skills but I thought it mattered who you fight and how active you are as well ?
I use a combination of both. Some people favour resume, others favour ability. There are no set rules, just individual opinions.
My skills slash pure athletic talent p4p list would be 1 Mayweather 2 Rigondeaux 3 Andre ward 4 Hopkins 5 Pacquiao 6 Bradley 7 Lara 8 Mikey Garcia 9 Golovkin 10 Amir Khan
You guys honestly think ward retains #2 with just dawson and rodriguez at home in oakland in 3 and a half years ?
Inactivity is one thing. But who gives a **** where the fights are? Mayweather hasnt fought outside Vegas in years, does that discredit his wins?
China chinned Dawson? You mean Dawson who beat Hopkins (who's no.4 on your list.) Yeah Ward hasn't been the busiest due to injuries etc, but he beat Froch in the super six final, Dawson (who was a P4P TOP 10) and Rodriguez (top 10 at smw). Froch wins over Bute and Kessler were good wins, but not as good as Dawson and Rodriguez. Bute wasn't a P4P top 10 fighter like Dawson for starters and Kessler was practically done in by then still a good win though. The thing is Ward had beaten Kessler before Froch, but who did Kessler go on to beat in his next fight after losing to Ward = Froch. There's NO WAY Froch is above Ward in any list :nono As for Pacquiao, he's had a good win over Bradley after their controversial first fight which he could have got the nod, but in between that he lost by KO to Juan Manuel Marquez, after getting lucky in their 3rd fight, so Pacquiao's behind Ward in my list as well.
1. Floyd Mayweather 2. Manny Pacquiao 3.Guillermo Rigondeaux 4. Wladimir Klitschko 5. Andre Ward(too inactive,hasnt done anything impressive since the super 6) 6. Sergio martinez. 7.Tim Bradley. 8. Juan Manuel Marquez 9. Roman Gonzalez 10. Mike Garcia
It's you're list, but you can't dig out Andre Ward for been too inactive and done nothing special since the super six when you have Sergio Martinez and Roman Gonzalez in your top 10. I mean what have Gonzalez and Martinez done in the same space of time where you say Ward has done nothing, so you can't fault one, but give others a pass.