i just want to see your personal list on how you rank modern boxers in your ATG list... 1.Whitaker 2.Chavez 3.Jones 4.Lewis 5.Holyfield 6.Hopkins 7.Pacquiao 8.Mayweather 9.Lopez 10.De La Hoya 11.Trinidad 12.Mosley 13.Nelson 14.Morales 15.Barrera 16.Calzaghe 17.Tyson 18.Marquez 19.McCallum 20.Galaxy 21.Toney 22.Fenech 23.Tszyu 24.Wright 25.Tapia 26.Carbajal 27.Camacho 28.Vitalai K 29. Wladimir K 30. Alvarez i would say all of them deserve to be in the hall of fame but only the top 25 can be classified as ATG...imo
It's pretty staggering that Pea comprehensively beat number 2 and 13 on the list. Lopez is too high. His resume is not reflective of his ability in the ring. Calzaghe is too high. A lot of fighters you have below him beat better fighters.
Well what fighters were available to them? You have no problem it seems with Floyds placing, who had a far greater number of "Great" fighters available to him than those 2 did, and didnt fight them. Does that deserve greater reward than fighters who didnt have any in their optimum weight class. Doesnt make sense.(Im a Floyd fan BTW).
It doesn't matter if there wasn't great opposition out there during their reign .... the fact just is, they didn't fight great opposition, whether by choice or just because of a lack of talented opponents. Most of the time, if a fighter is a champ in a weak division, they will move up in weight to find better competition.
Lewis above Holyfield?? He shouldn't even be higher on a HW list, let alone an all-time P4P ATG list. That's just insane.
of the last 20 years 1. Holyfield 2. RJJ 3. Lewis 4. Tyson 5. Whitaker 6. Chavez 7. Hopkins 8. DeLahoya 9. Mosley 10. Michael Spinks 11. Moorer 12. Toney 13. Trinidad 14. Pacquiao 15. Juan Manuel Marquez 16. Barrera 17. Morales 18. Cotto 19. Castillo 20. Calzaghe 21. Norris 22. Floyd Mayweather Jr 23. Casamayor 24. Hatton 25. Corrales 26. Wright 27. Hayes 28. Darchinyan 29. Calderon 30. Morrison
Like Hop did for 7 years? Are you sure? If Tito and Oscar hadnt moved from a couple of weights below, his resume post 94 would have consisted of an eleven year reign fighting nobody and 2 L's to Jermain Taylor. Stuff of legend. He showed no rush to move for 7 years when his divison was weak. I think when comparing the smaller weights and the bigger weights you have to have some leeway, especially if you have a fighter of the caliber of a Hop and Calzaghe in weak divisions.
No order, these are fighters of importance and favorites Holyfield Lennox Lewis (props to the guy for beating mostly everyone) De La Hoya Wright Vargas Trinidad Hopkins Cotto Roy Jones Jr. Margarito Mosley Calzaghe Floyd Jr Marco Antonio Barrera Erik Morales Juan Diaz Tyson Bowe Toney Pavlik Rahman (he KO'd Lewis cold and I liked it) Tarver (for beating Roy closest to his prime) JMM Darisuz M Manny Pac Wlad Virgil Hill (man was a damn good LHW) Hatton Okay I got 28. I have only been watching boxing for 8 years. I do like a lot of old school fighters who were before SRL's time though.