Liston **** Allegatiation?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Watching "Sonny Liston - The Champ Nobody Wanted" supposedly Sonny raped a maid very shortly before winning the Golden Gloves tournament.

    There's another Tyson analogue, anyway.

    Always viewed Sonny as someone who was unfairly judged to be the bad guy... But before his actual boxing career started he supposedly did this.

    Thoughts? Anyone else seen this documentary or hear this?
     
  2. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is news to me, I read he raped someone's wife once.
     
  3. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    What were the circumtances of that one?

    When did you hear it?
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    **** is wrong.

    Anyway, Liston supposedly had multiple "sexual assautls" covered up by the mafia - including one in the UK, according to Nighttrain.

    He is also rumoured to have hosplitalised several prostitutes through "over-enthusiasm".
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Liston had raped, injured or violated multiple women to be quite honest. He was also involved with the mafia from the time that he was a teenager, and apparently did a lot of collections work for them, which basically means, he broke the legs of people who owed the bosses cash. Frankly, it would not surprise me in the least if Liston even iced a man or two in his day. It comes with the territory when you mix with the mob, and Sonny was no humanitarian by any stretch of the imagination.
     
  6. Thread Stealer

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    It was strange, in the book "The Devil and Sonny Liston", I remember skimming through it at the bookstore and they mentioned cases. Then I bought it a few weeks later and read it, and that whole part was taken out.

    I'm not all that sure about the reliabilty of that book anyway. It claims that Archie Moore took a dive against Rocky Marciano. Anyone who saw that fight should be highly skeptical about that.

    The book also gives like a long description about Liston's anatomy and size.

    Not something I really cared to read in a boxing biography.
     
  7. McGrain

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    It's unlikely Liston killed anybody - it's also probably not the case that he broke legs. Liston's most violent non-sexual crimes were commited before he came in touch with the mafia. It wasn't until he turned pro that he hooked up with the mafia, and although he did indeed ride with "Big" Barney Baker, who was a mafia tough, his role was likely limited to that of show, intimidation.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Really? That is the reprint of Night Train, right? I was under the impression that they were only named differently for the different markets - must have been legal issues.
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    Truthfully, I stopped reading boxing biographies a long time ago. I find that no matter how well or how poorly written they are, they are still just one person's view of a man's life, and only giving the portion of the story that it takes to sell the book. Biographies are not to be trusted nor taken as gospel most of the time.
     
  10. ChrisPontius

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    Covered up by the media? I find that hard to believe. If anything, the media thrive on celebrities breaking laws. Liston was a known badass and ex-con...
     
  11. McGrain

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    Yeah, that was a slip of the finger Chrissy.

    That should read, "Mafia".
     
  12. Thread Stealer

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    Apparently Night Train is the title of the book in the U.K.

    Night Train is indeed a good song to jump rope to IMO.
     
  13. mr. magoo

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    Difficult to say for sure. The man left home at an early age, and did what he needed to do to survive. Violence was second nature to him, and in those days, people got away with a lot of crap that went uninvestigated, unsolved or unrecorded, unlike today. He was a guy who spent time in prison later in his life, among other places.

    Weather Liston's violence was limited to the ring, or weather he has gross skeletons in his very dark and deep closet, one thing is for sure. He was no wonderful human being. I suspect that much of his person life is still unknown, and likely will always be.
     
  14. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    What in the hell was the context there?

    Mandingo'ish thing going on?
     
  15. McGrain

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    There is no difficulty in being sure about any of this - it is all true. But none of it was connected to the Mafia. Liston had absolutley no proven or implied link to the Mafia before he turned pro.