Liston and Louis' friendship

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  1. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Sorry friend, I did give your post a “like” the other day - not sure why it didn’t hold.

    Yes, high profile personalities, particularly in sport, can present as powerful symbols for heroism or villainy - especially for the young and, all too often, the perceptions are finite, without taking on board the obvious nuances involved and contrived framing by the press.
     
  2. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Thanks New. Much appreciated. I didn’t see your post earlier since your reply was addressed to another poster. I will definitely have a look.

    Here’s a link to the book online. Same site I’ve linked before - you need to sign up (free and simple) to allow a “virtual” borrowing of this particular book.

    They allow blocks of 1 hour for borrowing - when the allotted hour runs out you simply borrow the book again straightaway and keep reading.

    https://archive.org/details/presidentialpape0000mail/mode/1up?q=the+presidential+papers
     
  3. newurban99

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  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Now Deceased 2/4/25 Full Member

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    It probably was taped in the afternoon, six days before Clay (Ali) vs Liston in Miami Beach, Florida. Liston stated that his dog could play the drums better than Ringo Starr.
     
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  5. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought Sonny and Joe were 2 of boxing's biggest drinkers, more so than drugs?
     
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Perhaps Louis was angry at how he was treated disrespectfully by the media and IRS and realized that his efforts to be a mainstream hero were futile.
     
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  7. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Well Louis public image and persona was one of the most successful in HW history. The IRS stuff didn't seem to be common knowledge from what I understand and it wasn't like his name was drug through the mud. But Louis becoming jaded that they gave him no leeway whatsoever is understandable. In fact I wrote a paper on that subject a couple years ago and it was ridiculous given how much he supported the war effort.
     
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