I was recently re-watching Liston when he lost to Ali in their first fight and I was struck by his inability to get off even when Ali`s eyes were stinging Liston had Ali on the ropes and looked he was punching under water to Ali`s body the same way Hagler looked at times against Leonard and Ortiz when he had Wilder in trouble he just couldn`t let go so coul;d Liston have blown away Ortiz the way a slimmed down Wilder did a would Ortiz prove to be the better cart horse?
Liston in a good rough brawling type fight. Liston gets shook up a couple of times but comes back just as hard .10 round ko .
Liston in his prime which was before he fought Ali I think would decimate Ortiz. I don’t get how Ortiz was ever rated that highly. He just looks like another typical slow plodding modern day heavy who happens to be a lefty.