Liston v Tyson

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Liston was his idol. Tyson said Liston was orgasmic to watch...

 

Tyson is a motherfvcking monster compared to most of the people Liston fought.

Ali was great, Ali went 2-0 (2) vs. Liston.

Patterson was a great P4P fighter but as a HW he wasn't so durable. He was down 20 times as a pro, more than any other HW Champ in history.

Machen was a very good fighter, but not a big HW. He was stopped by Johansson in the 1st round but won a few rounds vs. Liston and went the distance.

Folley was also a very good fighter, but not a big HW. Pretty much on par with Machen but not as durable (usually). Liston stopped him inside of 3 rounds.

Williams was a good contender in his day but is overrated in my opinion. He had good size, strength, and power. He was athletic but did not have the best chin. He was stopped by Satterfield, Liston x2, and Ali among others. He went 1-1 vs. Terrell and drew with Machen. Liston stopped him inside of 3 rounds twice.

Tyson beat Tillis, Green, Ferguson, Ratliff, Ribalta, Berbick, Smith, Thomas, Tucker, Biggs, Holmes, M. Spinks, Tubbs, Bruno x2, Williams, Stewart, Ruddock x2, Mathis, Seldon, Ettiene, Botha, Nielsen, Savarese, Norris and Golota (despite the NC rule on these), Sure, he lost to Holyfield and Lewis (Tyson clearly past prime vs. Lewis)... they would beat Liston as well. Douglas? Douglas was awesome that night, Tyson wasn't.

Tyson was much quicker, both plenty strong, both punched hard, both accurate. Speed kills in this one. Tyson by late round stoppage or decision win.

 

Imagine what Liston would say about Tyson...

 

Tyson could over come Liston by showing him his cell phone and telling him he was magic.

 

Liston certainly had the tools, the jab, punch repertoire, and chin, however I don't
believe hes slick enough to put on a clinic. His chin could be dented and he could be hurt
badly with a single shot. If Liston can survive early his jab and infighting would prevail.
I believe Mike's defense is key here and speed kills. Liston would have to beat up Mike all night don't see that happening before Tyson gets to him. Tyson KO7.

 

lol

 

Liston was a much more complete fighter. Liston wins inside of five rounds or less. Could be similar to Foreman vs Frazier.

 

Let me ask you this....Tyson would, taking Clay aside, A-B-S-O -L U-T-E-L-Y **** Listons entire resume while not even breaking a sweat.....guaranteed, and I would make Tyson a decisive fav over the green Clay Liston fought.

Liston had good tools, good technique,was painfully slow and not too difficult to hit, lol, could one imagine the flak Tyson would get if a beanstick like in Listons case broke his jaw ? LOL.

Short version, the ONLY modern skilled and talented Heavyweight Liston faced he quit twice, undeniable fact.

Liston has never seen a fighter like Tyson, period, if you think he was befuddled by Clays speed but average power then he would be in total shock and awe when faced with similar speed packed by legitimate dynamite behind it.

Liston has was Tyson always had to deal with, a jab, lol, with some slow moving .50 cal musket balls behind it, been there done that.

After a short beating Liston would stay on the mat and call it a day, after all, he was very experinced in that manouver.

 

Talking about Liston quitting to consider what would happen in a Tyson fight is as fair, balanced & rational as to claim Tyson would quit or chew off part of Liston's body & be DQed. There is no evidence that either would quit in their prime, & fighting with a broken jaw is contrary evidence.

Tyson lost his legacy fights & flipped out in his own past prime. Just as relevant. Not.

This is not a good faith analysis.

Tyson did not deal with equivalent power, as great a jab & @ 84", & Liston has some significant skills. Both at distance & inside. Tyson could tire late, but who knows just how much he would have late in a Liston fight.

Speed could be the difference, but maybe not. Ali was a boxer, & again it was well past prime time then.

 

Liston

 

battle of the bullies, I think Tyson brings more power and speed into the equation and Sonny feels the power early unless the Big Jab and long right can hurt Tyson early and keep him at bay where the later rounds would favor Sonny....My thinking is Tyson gets there first and puts a hurt on Sonny before he can get his groove

 

Bumping this. Was trying to think who I’d favor. Both skill set were so different. Liston was a machine who didn’t stop throwing punches. Great jab great power not exactly fast.
Tyson was fast...but in bursts only. He didn’t throw a lot of punches. Had the edge defensively.
For me comes down to can Liston withstand the punishment he would receive for several rounds because both had solid chins and it wouldn’t end early. Goes past five it’s Listons.