Liston vs Holyfield

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by swagdelfadeel, Nov 20, 2014.


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  1. heavy_handss

    heavy_handss Guest

    You are one OF the most ridiculous cartoons IF not the most on Internet, you say lie after another
    lie, you said that liston knocked out foreman in a sparring session and YOU SAW IT, you said that shavers TOLD YOU THAT LISTON DID HIT HIM HARDER THAN. LYle, OF course that it is all lie, shavers never sparred with liston, shavers was nobody at the time that liston was still alive, sonny died in 1970? there are an interview OF shavers wherenhe said that the hardest punchers in history WERE foreman, lyle and himself, and he said that he would have knocked out liston, i will try TO find the Link, the funny thing is that you have the. Courage TO call anyone LIAR, when you are the biggest liar ever on this Forum, you have no life and you need attention, poor guy
     
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  2. heavy_handss

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  3. heavy_handss

    heavy_handss Guest

    Just get out OF here pathetic joke piece OF ****, i respect the people, but i can't TO respect a liar
     
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  4. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    liston on roids would beat hollyfield on roids, liston without beats holly without. the actual prime hw versions, hollyfield wouldn't be my pick but could do it.
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Can you prove I lied about Liston knocking out Foreman? If you can, then do it. If you can't then stfu. Shavers personally told me this. He said when Liston hit him, it felt like a sledgehammer. He also never fought Foreman did he? So what position is he to be saying Foreman hit hard? A lot of people said Liston hit harder than Foreman. Sorry if you can't handle it. I see you ignored my challenge to find those "tons of prime fights Liston weighed 201 in. You also lied to surf-bat about this.
     
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  6. PowerPuncher

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    Holyfield would outspeed, counter, rough up and outwork Liston.
     
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  7. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    In that case you can't respect yourself. Remember those "tons of prime fights" Liston weighed 208 in? When Surf-Bat exposed you and pointed out not only did Liston not have any prime fights at 208, but he never had ANY fights at 208, You made up yet another lie claiming the argument was that he weighed near 208 not exactly 208. I have quotes so be very careful about lying about it.
    "joe frazier was green when he faced oscar bonavena and he was a bit green when he faced quarry in 1969, frazier was in his absolute peak in 70-71, my point is that he was in his best shape against foster and he was weighing 209(210 pounds, it is the same), funny because liston fought at 208 in tons of his prime fights, liston would not have any advantage in weight , and frazier was shorter, so he was more compact." Source:http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=15617412
    "MY point was not IF he weighed 208 pounds exactly, it is a silly thing, he weighed. 205 , 209 ,207 201, 210, 202, 212. , MY point was that he was clearly smaller than foreman and frazier was as heavy as liston, i dont CARE about IF he weighed exactly 208 pounds, you must be ******ed" Source:http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=16594362
    I am beginning to sympathize with Surf-bat who I thought (before I found out how much of a hypocrite you are) was being a Bit harsh on you. My apologies Surf-Bat
    Why are we going through this AGAIN? Surf-Bat already exposed you.
    So just remember next time you wanna call someone stupid, ******ed, or whatever immature insult you come up with, it's best to be sure that you aren't posting incorrect information yourself because the only one looking "stupid" is you.
    You are a lying, ignorant, hypocrite and that is why I despise you.
     
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  8. energie

    energie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    holyfield = no fear / side to side/ great chin/
     
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  9. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Holyfield was great, bhut I agree that WITH his steroids he might beat Liston.
    PEDs & transforming your body & physical potential is Major League cheating
    Imagine Liston with modern weight training-& steroids.
     
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  10. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Maybe John. But there is no evidence that he used them. Tests are not hard to get around in most sports systems, nobody has ever accused him, & steroids became much more common in sports since the '60's, certainly including boxing. Let alone more versions, "stacked" more effectively.

    This is one of the biggest reason that Boxers are so much....Bigger. That & weight training. Hloyfield used both.
     
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  11. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If listons legs had matched his upper body he'd have weighed 16stone.as it is I think he'd break holyfield up within the 12 rounds.
     
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  12. RockyJim

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    Sonny Liston is so overrated on this forum...it's amazing...Holyfield beats him on heart alone...
     
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  13. stonehammerjack

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    wow. how in the world does tyson who never ever beat a tough heavyweight that stood up to him and was himself easily intimidated if he failed to get the ko in 1 or 2 rounds ko liston. Liston would maul tyson. Nobody beats liston easily. in my lifetime there was never a more fearsome package of fighter than Sonny Liston. A fearless guy physically who was only beaten by the great Ali at his peak and could slug it out w anyone. Holyfield, who I respect has neither the punch or defense to hold Sonny off. Holmes would have a good chance but Sonny"s 84 inch jab is longer than holmes 82 inch jab. Both jabs 2 of the best i ever saw. Klitschkos get slaughtered. Wlad impaled in 1, Vittles in 6. Liston was the real deal folks. the true baddest man on the planet.
     
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  14. stonehammerjack

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    Excelleny! I thinks Sonny's body shots especially the left hook would destroy bodybeautiful Holyfield like Toney did to him. the best way to beat the bodybuilder types is body punching to cave them in.
     
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  15. stonehammerjack

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    I agree. Listons milelong jab and basic animal toughness is a nightmare for any weakchinned opponant
     
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