Liston vs Tyson

Unforgiven · Mar 1, 2015

Nobody beats prime Sonny Liston.

Sangria · Mar 1, 2015

Unforgiven said: ↑

Nobody beats prime Sonny Liston.
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Nobody definitely being Mike Tyson, and others.

Unforgiven · Mar 1, 2015

Sangria said: ↑

Nobody definitely being Mike Tyson, and others.
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Well, INVINCIBLE ROONEY TYSON beats him, as does TOKYO (POKEMON) DOUGLAS, of course, but I was only referring to the mortal beings of this world.

Foxy 01 · Mar 1, 2015

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Foxy 01 said: ↑

if you genuinely believe liston is twice as good as mike in every aspect then we may aswell end this discussiom right here. Because, you are either blind or you have bias towards liston and/or against tyson. Come on kid, mike is the superior boxer here, explain to me how liston would deal with mikes attacks, there is now way liston would be able to stop tyson from landing, he only saw speed like that twice in his career and we know how those bouts ended. Tyson would see listons shots coming, he was not fast enough to make full use of his jab against tyson. He would rarely land it, and every time he throws it tyson slips to his left and throws shots liston will genuinely not see coming. The left hook you mention will not be effective against tyson in this bout, his only hope would be the backhand, yet he lacked the speed to set this shot up. This whole Tyson 'has no plan B' is ridiculous. Yes, in his later career he relied solely on his power, yes he became one dimensional. However to compare that to a prime tyson, one of the greatest technichians in the game is blasp****us. Tyson is faster, stronger, better defence, better offence, sets shots up better, counters better, better footwork and overall better boxer. Listons, brain, feet and hands are just way too slow to have any chance of defeating mike.
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You are obviously impressed with Tyson beating up crack heads, alcoholics, and Z level fighters ( skill wise ) like frank Bruno, or guys that were so scared of the lisping freak they would never have been in the same town as Liston, never mind the same ring. Fools like Spinks, Seldon, and Williams. You are a typical Tyson fan boy, who conveniently forgets he lost every time the other guy decided to have a " fight " as opposed to just survive, and a prime Liston would definitely have a fight with him.

Tyson personified the archetypal bully. Quit fighting when the other guy fights back harder. That is why he lost EVERY time.

I don't give a fvck about ANY feeble excuses about his scabby life outside the ring or other cr ap. He quit, end of.
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Foxy 01 · Mar 1, 2015

sauhund II said: ↑

LOL, fear factor.....Super Bully **** in his pants not once but twice against a green unknown light punching Clay.....

Tyson would go thru Listons resume, if we take Clay out of the equation, like a hot knife thru butter, no question and he would not need re matches or had his jaw broken in the process.

Cleveland Williams is a C level journey man, he would be lucky to see the second round against Tyson, Fact.

Sonny " I feast on skinny lhwts and quit twice when I met a fighter with skills/size" is the most hysterical overrated fighter on this board.

Chin ? Even when totally washed up, drugged, fat, old and untrained was NEVER laid out cold like Liston was when they were in similar positions in live, another good damn fact and the fighters Tyson faced at that stage of his career cracked significantly harder than the cream puff who laid out Sonny.
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If you believe that Liston was.

(a ) in his prime when he fought Clay / Ali

or

( b ) the second fight wasn't a complete charade

you can only be a bigger idiot, than the r.a.p.i.s.t scum you keep pictures of on your bedroom wall.

TheEmperor · Mar 1, 2015

Foxy 01 said: ↑

TheEmperor said: ↑

You are obviously impressed with Tyson beating up crack heads, alcoholics, and Z level fighters ( skill wise ) like frank Bruno, or guys that were so scared of the lisping freak they would never have been in the same town as Liston, never mind the same ring. Fools like Spinks, Seldon, and Williams. You are a typical Tyson fan boy, who conveniently forgets he lost every time the other guy decided to have a " fight " as opposed to just survive, and a prime Liston would definitely have a fight with him.

Tyson personified the archetypal bully. Quit fighting when the other guy fights back harder. That is why he lost EVERY time.

I don't give a fvck about ANY feeble excuses about his scabby life outside the ring or other cr ap. He quit, end of.
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name a fighter liston beat that tyson wouldn't... Ill wait. Me? Fanboy? Im a grown man, dont speak to me about that garbage. I judge fighters from a totally non bias viewpoint, basing my opinion off their fighting ability. You on the other hand are quite clearly heavily biased against Tyson judging by your other posts i had a quick look at. Instead of screaming 'fanboy' whenever anyone voices their opinion on the fighter you seem to hate so much, you should try and come up with a valid response as to why that person is wrong. You obviously have some sort of hidden agenda against Tyson so there is no point continuing this discussion as it is pointless. Also, the point about how he lost every time someone stood up to him is absolute ridiculous. I suggest you watch Tyson without bias, study him and try and figure out his real flaws. Not this lost every time the other kid wasnt scared bull****. You seem like one of those boxrec fans, their whole knowledge of the sport derives from that website, they know nothing about the actual fight game, just the stats. Watch some fights kid. Or better yet, go out and box for yourself and then we will see if you still dont respect tyson as a fighter. Tyson is among the greats of the sport and deserves much more respect than youre giving him
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Sangria · Mar 1, 2015

Unforgiven said: ↑

Well, INVINCIBLE ROONEY TYSON beats him, as does TOKYO (POKEMON) DOUGLAS, of course, but I was only referring to the mortal beings of this world.
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So Tyson's immortal now? FANBOY

Wass1985 · Mar 1, 2015

TheEmperor said: ↑

Foxy 01 said: ↑

name a fighter liston beat that tyson wouldn't... Ill wait. Me? Fanboy? Im a grown man, dont speak to me about that garbage. I judge fighters from a totally non bias viewpoint, basing my opinion off their fighting ability. You on the other hand are quite clearly heavily biased against Tyson judging by your other posts i had a quick look at. Instead of screaming 'fanboy' whenever anyone voices their opinion on the fighter you seem to hate so much, you should try and come up with a valid response as to why that person is wrong. You obviously have some sort of hidden agenda against Tyson so there is no point continuing this discussion as it is pointless. Also, the point about how he lost every time someone stood up to him is absolute ridiculous. I suggest you watch Tyson without bias, study him and try and figure out his real flaws. Not this lost every time the other kid wasnt scared bull****. You seem like one of those boxrec fans, their whole knowledge of the sport derives from that website, they know nothing about the actual fight game, just the stats. Watch some fights kid. Or better yet, go out and box for yourself and then we will see if you still dont respect tyson as a fighter. Tyson is among the greats of the sport and deserves much more respect than youre giving him
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Name a fighter that Tyson beat that Liston wouldn't... Guess I'll be in for a long wait.
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Sangria · Mar 1, 2015

Foxy 01 said: ↑

If you believe that Liston was.

(a ) in his prime when he fought Clay / Ali

or

( b ) the second fight wasn't a complete charade

you can only be a bigger idiot, than the r.a.p.i.s.t scum you keep pictures of on your bedroom wall.
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If Tyson's a ****** scum than you must have a very low opinion of Liston.

Wass1985 · Mar 1, 2015

Sangria said: ↑

If Tyson's a ****** scum than you must have a very low opinion of Liston.
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Come on then who did Liston **** smartass?

Sangria · Mar 1, 2015

Wass1985 said: ↑

Come on then who did Liston **** smartass?
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We don't know. But I'm sure Liston and Tyson are on the same level. Neither are saints. Yeah, I'm smarter than you!

Wass1985 · Mar 1, 2015

Sangria said: ↑

We don't know. But I'm sure Liston and Tyson are on the same level. Neither are saints. Yeah, I'm smarter than you!
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We don't know because he didn't re****, don't try and put Liston on the same level as Tyson because it just isn't true Sandra.

Sangria · Mar 1, 2015

Wass1985 said: ↑

We don't know because he didn't re****, don't try and put Liston on the same level as Tyson because it just isn't true Sandra.
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Listen, I can understand why your parents abused you - I just can't understand why they molested you.

:hi:

Wass1985 · Mar 1, 2015

Sangria said: ↑

Listen, I can understand why your parents abused you - I just can't understand why they molested you.

:hi:
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Go re-enact your Tyson **** scene with your Boyfriend Asser69... Is it true you got a cast of Tinkerbells whizzer??? :rofl

Foxy 01 · Mar 1, 2015

TheEmperor said: ↑

Foxy 01 said: ↑

name a fighter liston beat that tyson wouldn't... Ill wait. Me? Fanboy? Im a grown man, dont speak to me about that garbage. I judge fighters from a totally non bias viewpoint, basing my opinion off their fighting ability. You on the other hand are quite clearly heavily biased against Tyson judging by your other posts i had a quick look at. Instead of screaming 'fanboy' whenever anyone voices their opinion on the fighter you seem to hate so much, you should try and come up with a valid response as to why that person is wrong. You obviously have some sort of hidden agenda against Tyson so there is no point continuing this discussion as it is pointless. Also, the point about how he lost every time someone stood up to him is absolute ridiculous. I suggest you watch Tyson without bias, study him and try and figure out his real flaws. Not this lost every time the other kid wasnt scared bull****. You seem like one of those boxrec fans, their whole knowledge of the sport derives from that website, they know nothing about the actual fight game, just the stats. Watch some fights kid. Or better yet, go out and box for yourself and then we will see if you still dont respect tyson as a fighter. Tyson is among the greats of the sport and deserves much more respect than youre giving him
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One sentence answers your nonsense. Show one fight Tyson ever came from behind to win.

I can show you 5 where the other guy tasted his onslaught in the early rounds, fought back and KHTFO.

Feel free to use any source you like including Boxrec.:roll::roll:

If you don't like being referred to as a " fan boy " don't presume other people to be kids, because,

( a ) they disagree with you

or

( b ) because they call dirty s.e.x offenders what they are.

People don't refer to Jimmy Saville as a D J, TV presenter, or Gary Glitter as a pop star, or any other " famous " people by whatever it was they did for a living. They rightly refer to them as perverts, after they have been convicted for s.e.x crimes.

If anyone doesn't like it tough sh it.
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