Liston vs Tyson

The_Ikon · Mar 25, 2015

Tyson wrecks the old timer in 5...

Stevie G · Mar 25, 2015

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Tysons skill at Slipping the Jab and coming inside on Boxers was excellent, However Slipping Listons jab and coming inside perhaps would not yield the same results that slipping the jabs of others Tyson met like Tubbs, Thomas or Biggs ect did. Liston would probably prey for an inside fight, OK give him a few extra inches punching room...

Often Mike did not keep working when up very close. (As a Frazier Would) and with his feet close together could be pushed back, if you were bold and refused to be intimidated, as Holyfield later showed, Very few had the fortitude, Ability..and General predatory nastiness to come for him... Liston Does...

Some may not have complete faith in either to Gut it out if things start to go against them to any degree, Both were expert finishers with wounded prey, but its when those first Mental cracks start to appear, the realisation that they are in with someone who can seriously hurt them that things may start to get really interesting... and ones ascendancy...and correspondingly ones fold might prove quite sudden. Unlike against other Boxers who they will, all being well, belive that they can ultimately catch up to and despatch, both would recognise the other as a Heavy-Density Predator who does not let wounded prey off the Hook...But destroys it in quick Order...

Sometimes when Tyson felt threatened he seemed to up the Trash Talk, But would he tell Liston he was going to make him his Girlfriend..? or invite down to the Basement for a Last Man Standing...Somehow i doubt it... I think they both spoke the Language of Intimidation, Liston did not have to result to threatening to rip out hearts or eat his opponents babies... With Sonny a Baleful stare was usually enough, and of course Commissions can not fine you for pointed silences ..

No, this one would have to be won through Deed, Or course Tyson might implode and commit some foul if things start to go against him...but i think that he would also know that should he try to take a chunk out of Sonnys ear.... Sonny will probably not be held back by a Ref jumping between .. The Younger Follower i suspect would favour the more Accessible Tyson, He of the Highlight Reel Ko sequences...The Older follower the Less Media Friendly Liston, I think the Bookies would also side with Tyson, in which case i for one would favour an Upset....

Both were Sprinters, Great On Top fighters, but with Liston having the Ability to Endure, If Tyson does not make a Big Impression on Liston in the first half of the fight....Whilst being forced back and shipping a few heavy shots, ...the Pebbles before the Landslide perhaps...does he start to trudge back to his (shambolic ?) corner...to be greeted with a man with a Water-Filled Condom...?

It may start out untidy..with much Mauling as Tyson gets inside, but finds he cant Bully his man once there...each fighters Bomb runs might be sporadic and short lived initially, but as things settle down..i can see Listons Heavy jab becoming the Match winner, he is not as quick as Mike..but once he starts to time him..it will give him that extra punching room he needs, with Mike perhaps becoming more hesitant and respectful of whats waiting for him inside... of course the secret to beating Tyson is not to wait...to initiate, do not seek to respond.. but put Static in his Attic with the Jab ... Stopping his Attack Programming Running...then Switch Channels on him... and Junk Him..

Tyson would soon be looking ill at ease i suspect, Looking at the Ref for Deemed infringements, the reason i feel this could of happened..? because even at his accredited best, against Mike Spinks, many only looked at Tysons performance, they did not care to acknowledge that the Frozen Spinks that night was absolutely no Barometer to greatness, Tyson had had things so much his own way in his career to that point, but he was a ManChild psychologically,I can not help but wonder how he would react with Nasty Liston Payloads Incoming..?

If we are pitting a 22-24year old Tyson against a 27-29 year old Liston or indeed say the Spinks Tyson, against the Pre-Championship (Circa Cleve Williams) Liston i really do think that Sonny would keep any embryonic mind demons of his own in check, and when the Mushroom Cloud Clears.... The ManChild is Vanquished...Ill Plumb for the Stoney-Faced One. Perhaps Mid-Fight.
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Precisely my own view on this one.

moneytheman12 · Nov 9, 2021

Alexandrow Vids said: ↑

Thats correct , just like a Floyd Patterson

Patterson with much faster hands than Tyson and
equivalent bobbing and weaving beats Liston easy.

Liston landed not even a single punch on Patterson.

Oh....wait....
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Oh....wait.... using a dumb quote of was like floyd and only saying speed when that's not all that matters and mike would win for these reasons

floyd wasnt a counterer he was more brawler
mike was mid range
floyd was more close
floyd threw combos usually out of random

mike threw 3-4 combos usually from counters or seeing a person is hurt already

mike changed angles at anytime once he seen his victim had bad defense to catch them off guard

so no not exactly like floyd

RulesMakeItInteresting · Nov 9, 2021

moneytheman12 said: ↑

Oh....wait.... using a dumb quote of was like floyd and only saying speed when that's not all that matters and mike would win for these reasons

floyd wasnt a counterer he was more brawler
mike was mid range
floyd was more close
floyd threw combos usually out of random

mike threw 3-4 combos usually from counters or seeing a person is hurt already

mike changed angles at anytime once he seen his victim had bad defense to catch them off guard

so no nothing like floyd
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Is this a record? The Ultimate Troll reopens an over 6 and a half year thread LOL!

The Mike Tyson Missionary strikes again.

Pugguy · Nov 9, 2021

RulesMakeItInteresting said: ↑

Is this a record? The Ultimate Troll reopens an over 6 and a half year thread LOL!

The Mike Tyson Missionary strikes again.
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Ridiculously Old! How old, the audience cried?

Well, let’s just say, I’m having trouble deciphering these dusty old posts. Could someone please pass me a Rosetta Stone if they happen to have one handy.

So there is such a thing as The Mike Tyson Missionary Position? I wonder how that’s different to……ah, never mind.

RulesMakeItInteresting · Nov 9, 2021

Pugguy said: ↑

Ridiculously Old! How old, the audience cried?

Well, let’s just say, I’m having trouble deciphering these dusty old posts. Could someone please pass me a Rosetta Stone if they happen to have one handy.

So there is such a thing as The Mike Tyson Missionary Position? I wonder how that’s different to……ah, never mind.
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LOL!

You rule, Pugguy.

Saintpat · Nov 9, 2021

Both quit on their stools after first round.

moneytheman12 · Nov 9, 2021

Saintpat said: ↑

Both quit on their stools after first round.
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where is the video of mike quitting in his young days cause I cant find it but I can find son on his in his young days link me to the young mike one

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