Lists Please!!!!!

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Thread Stealer, Jan 17, 2008.


  1. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not in your 100?? I belive Gene Fullmer should be there some were in the top 100 lol. Villa should make the top 100 also.
     
  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The shame, Darcy doesnt make the cut either??
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There are so many guys I feel uncomfortable about excluding, and those two are definitely in that bunch.

    Really, you could make good cases for half the guys I listed being in the top 100.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    My top fighters with the last name Yarosz:

    1. Teddy Yarosz
    2. Eddie Yarosz

    Thank you.
     
  5. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hahah, not even after looking at the extended versions of his fights, lol. Have you had a look at them by the way?

    If his career wasn't cut so short i think he would have taken his place amongst the top 100. His talent is undeniable.
     
  6. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  7. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :huh This seems a bit inconsistent. Why would Marciano rank higher than Jeffries at heavyweight, but lower pound-for-pound? Jeffries was considerably bigger than Marciano.
     
  8. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not yet, still recorded some DVDs to working DVD's.

    I got the Jake Lamotta DVD recorded. They may be on one of the non working DVDs of the 4.
     
  9. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its on the working disk,

    Question, there are some fights I cant id on that disk with the Longer versions of the Darcy fights. It has Louis Lewis also. Can you give me a run down on that disk?
     
  10. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    NOTE: This list is excluding guys who are still active and near the top or who still have numerous opponents who are active and near the top, because those guys' rankings are heavily in flux. Guys like the Klitschkos and Tua will eventually have a place on this list, but I will wait for them and the majority of their major opponents to retire or drop out of the picture before I feel like I have a fairly clear picture of where they fall overall.


    My current top 50 heavyweights of all time-
    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. George Foreman
    4. Rocky Marciano
    5. Joe Frazier
    6. Larry Holmes
    7. Jack Dempsey
    8. Jim Jeffries
    9. Jack Johnson
    10. Evander Holyfield
    11. Sonny Liston
    12. Mike Tyson
    13. Lennox Lewis
    14. Jersey Joe Walcott
    15. Ezzard Charles
    16. Floyd Patterson
    17. Riddick Bowe
    18. Gene Tunney
    19. Max Schmeling
    20. Sam Langford
    21. Ingemar Johansson
    22. Ken Norton
    23. Max Baer
    24. Jack Sharkey
    25. Jerry Quarry
    26. Bob Fitzsimmons
    27. Harry Wills
    28. Archie Moore
    29. Jess Willard
    30. Elmer Ray
    31. Jim Corbett
    32. Tim Witherspoon
    33. Mike Spinks
    34. Tom Sharkey
    35. Joe Jeanette
    36. Jimmy Ellis
    37. Sam McVey
    38. Jimmy Bivins
    39. Eddie Machen
    40. Peter Jackson
    41. Ike Ibeabuchi
    42. Billy Conn
    43. Roland LaStarza
    44. Ray Mercer
    45. Ron Lyle
    46. Jimmy Young
    47. Jim Braddock
    48. Primo Carnera
    49. Billy Miske
    50. Michael Moorer
    Some guys who just missed making the list: Zora Folley, Buster Douglas, George Godfrey, Tommy Burns
     
  11. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And, having a somewhat embarrassing amount of free time on my hands, I've added up all 50 guys' records against other fighters on the list (in order from best to worst):

    1. Rocky Marciano 8-0
    2. Gene Tunney 2-0
    3. Lennox Lewis 3-0-1
    4. Jim Jeffries 7-1
    5. Muhammad Ali 14-3
    6. Jack Johnson 9-2-1
    7. Joe Louis 11-3
    8. Harry Wills 18-5-2
    9. Sonny Liston 4-2
    10-11. Riddick Bowe, Mike Spinks 2-1
    12. Evander Holyfield 6-3-1
    13. Jack Dempsey 4-2-1
    14. Ezzard Charles 11-6
    15. Joe Frazier 6-4
    16. Jimmy Young 3-2
    17. George Foreman 4-3
    18. Larry Holmes 4-4
    19. Ken Norton 3-3
    20-21. Ingemar Johansson, Max Baer 2-2
    22-23. Jim Braddock, Jess Willard 1-1
    24. Jack Sharkey 3-4
    25. Sam Langford 15-20-11
    26. Jersey Joe Walcott 5-7
    27-30. Mike Tyson, Max Schmeling, Elmer Ray, Tom Sharkey 2-3
    31. Floyd Patterson 4-7-1
    32. Archie Moore 4-7
    33. Michael Moorer 1-2
    34-35. Bob Fitzsimmons, Jimmy Ellis 2-4
    36. Joe Jeanette 6-13-8
    37. Sam McVey 5-12-5
    38-40. Primo Carnera, Ray Mercer, Eddie Machen 1-3
    41. Jerry Quarry 2-7-1
    42. Ron Lyle 1-5
    43. Jimmy Bivins 2-10
    44. Billy Miske 0-2-1
    45. Peter Jackson 0-1
    44-48. Roland LaStarza, Billy Conn, Tim Witherspoon 0-2
    49. Jim Corbett 0-4
    50. Ike Ibeabuchi 0-0
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure:

    Georges Carpentier vs. Frank Klaus
    Dick Tiger vs. Joey Giardello III
    Les Darcy vs. Jim Clabby
    Les Darcy vs. Dave Smith
    Tony Canzoneri vs. Jimmy McLarnin
    Fritzie Zivic vs. Kid McCoy
    Joe Louis vs. John Henry Lewis
     
  13. Manassa

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    Pound-for-pound:

    1. Henry Armstrong
    2. Harry Greb
    3. Ray Robinson
    4. Benny Leonard
    5. Ezzard Charles
    6. Willie Pep
    7. Roberto Duran
    8. Archie Moore
    9. Joe Gans
    10. Barney Ross
     
  14. Sonny's jab

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    Where do you rate Tommy Yarosz ?
     
  15. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was no slouch, but surely he can't be ranked above an incredible undefeated sensation like Eddie! Why, it seems practically the entire welterweight division (literally) was ducking him for nearly four straight years!