Lists!?!?!!?!!?!?!?!?

Top 2 best threads of the day

1.Anything by Rico Spadafora
2.This one

 

Lists are ridiculous, yes.
But head-to-heads gets ridiculous too.

Most of all I prefer learning new history. There are so many historical details out there to be discovered. Sometimes people here post some nice little article they've found. I appreciate things like that. :good

 

Lists are difficult, lets take the example of MW. Jones beats Hopkins easily, Hopkins would never beat that version of Jones but will always be rated above Jones because of his longevity/resume depth at the weight. Same with people rating Lamotta over Lloyd Marshall.

 

Well sir... it is a bit silly, but what ya gonna do?!

 

Yes... H2H gets a little crazy sometimes as well!

 

the list's threads do get a bit boring at times so i dont read most of them

 

I did these in 2004/05:

Top 30 who turned pro since 1976:

30 James Toney
29 Ronald 'Winky' Wright
28 Orlando Canizales
27 Mike Tyson
26 Sot Chitalada
25 Jeff Chandler
24 Lennox Lewis
23 Floyd Mayweather Jr
22 Aaron Pryor
21 Myung Woo Yuh
20 Jung Koo Chang
19 Kostya Tszyu
18 Brian Mitchell
17 Jeff Fenech
16 Salvador Sanchez
15 Marco Antonio Barrera
14 Mike McCallum
13 Felix Trinidad
12 Evander Holyfield
11 Khoasio Galaxy
10 Michael Spinks
9 Azumah Nelson
8 Bernard Hopkins
7 Ricardo Lopez
6 Roy Jones
5 Thomas Hearns
4 Pernell Whitaker
3 Oscar de la Hoya
2 Julio Cesar Chavez
1 Ray Leonard

35 great fighters

35 Roy Jones
34 George Foreman
33 Joe Gans
32 Ruben Olivares
31 Thomas Hearns
30 Marvin Hagler
29 Joe Louis
28 Gene Tunney
27 George Dixon
26 Eder Jofre
25 Carlos Zarate
24 Alexis Arguello
23 Pernell Whitaker
22 Oscar de la Hoya
21 Pancho Villa
20 Bob Fitzsimmons
19 Stanley Ketchel
18 Harry Grebb
17 Ezzard Charles
16 Benny Leonard
15 Julio Cesar Chavez
14 Mickey Walker
13 Ray Leonard
12 Carlos Monzon
11 Muhammad Ali
10 Charley Burley
9 Sammy Langford
8 Archie Moore
7 Jimmy Wilde
6 Willie Pep
5 Sandy Sadler
4 Georges Carpentier
3 Roberto Duran
2 Henry Armstrong
1 Ray Robinson

Top 10 Mexicans

10 Erik Morales
9 Vicente Saldivar
8 Lupe Pintor
7 Salvador Sanchez
6 Marco Antonio Barrera
5 Jose Napoles (Adopted Mexico as his own country; Cuban by birth)
4 Ricardo Lopez
3 Ruben Olivares
2 Carlos Zarate
1 Julio Cesar Chavez

Mentions to: Humberto Gonzales, Miguel Canto, Rodolfo Martinez, Alfonso Zamora, Daniel Zaragoza, Joe Rivers, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Manuel Medina, Rafael Limon, Jose Luis Ramirez and Jose Luis Castillo.

Lightweight

10 Sammy Angott
9 Julio Cesar Chavez
8 Bob Montgomery
7 Ike Williams
6 Battling Nelson
5 Joe Gans
4 Pernell Whitaker
3 Henry Armstrong
2 Benny Leonard
1 Roberto Duran

Mentions: Jack McAuliffe, George Lavigne, Frank Erne, Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Lou Ambers, Beau Jack, Jimmy Carter, Carlos Ortiz, Ken Buchanan, Esteban DeJesus, Guts Ishimatsu (Ishimatsu Suzuki), Alexis Arguello, Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Hector Camacho Snr, Oscar de la Hoya, Shane Mosley, Steve Johnson, Jose Luis Castillo and Floyd Mayweather Jr

 

Top fighters of the 90's

100 Iran Barkley
99 Vassily Jirov
98 Jorge Castro
97 Joe Calzaghe
96 Meldrick Taylor
95 Vinny Pazienza
94 Simon Brown
93 Gianfranco Rosi
92 Frankie Liles
91 William Joppy
90 Ray Mercer
89 Dingaan Thobela
88 Crisanto Espana
87 Eloy Rojas
86 Robert Quiroga
85 Nana Yaw Konadu
84 Juan Martin Coggi
83 Orlin Norris
82 Ronald Wright
81 Kennedy McKinney
80 Tim Austin
79 Julio Cesar Vazquez
78 Steve Collins
77 Al Cole
76 Lorenzo Barber
75 James Douglas
74 James McGirt
73 Miguel Angel Gonzales
72 Tony Lopez
71 Sharmba Mitchell
70 Lonnie Bradley
69 Antonio Esparragoza
68 Jake Matlala
67 Mike Tyson
66 Fernando Vargas
65 Tommy Hearns
64 Wilfred Vazquez
63 Orzubek Nazarov
62 Dave McAuley
61 Arturo Gatti
60 Harry Simon
59 Joichiro Tatsuyuhi
58 Michael Moorer
57 Julian Jackson
56 Kevin Kelley
55 Sung Il Moon
54 John John Molina
53 Manuel Medina
52 Maurice Blocker
51 Daniel Zaragoza
50 John David Jackson
49 Reggie Johnson
48 Myung Woo Yuh
47 Zack Padilla
46 Jeff Fenech
45 George Foreman
44 Henry Maske
43 Genaro Hernandez
42 Ike Quartey
41 Johnny Tapia
40 Vuyani Bungu
39 Vitali Klitschko
38 Freddie Pendleton
37 Mike McCallum
36 Michael Carbajal
35 Mark Johnson
34 Humberto Gonzales
33 Frankie Randall
32 Steve Johnston
31 Junior Jones
30 Yuri Arbachakov
29 Erik Morales
28 Tom Johnson
27 Chris Eubank
26 Gerald McClellan
25 Virgil Hill
24 Nigel Benn
23 Saman Sorjaturong
22 Kostya Tszyu
21 Azumah Nelson
20 Floyd Mayweather Jr
19 Marco Antonio Barrera
18 Bernard Hopkins
17 Shane Mosley
16 Riddick Bowe
15 Brian Mitchell
14 Dariusz Michalczewski
13 Kaosai Galaxy
12 Orlando Canizales
11 Lennox Lewis
10 Julio Cesar Chavez
9 James Toney
8 Felix Trinidad
7 Naseem Hamed
6 Terry Norris
5 Pernell Whitaker
4 Evander Holyfield
3 Ricardo Lopez
2 Roy Jones Jr
1 Oscar de la Hoya

 

Top 101 of the 80's

101 Herol Graham
100 Miguel Lora
99 Michael Moorer
98 Hilmer Kenty
97 Rolando Navarrete
96 Yong Kang Kim
95 Gabby Canizales
94 Fulgencio Obelmejias
93 Bobby Czyz
92 Frank Tate
91 Matthew Hilton
90 Sean O'Grady
89 Terry Marsh
88 Greg Haugen
87 Duke McKenzie
86 Jorge Paez
85 Wilfred Gomez
84 Maurice Hope
83 Elly Pical
82 Saoul Mamby
81 John Mugabi
80 Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
79 Milton McCrory
78 Cornelius Boza-Edwards
77 Rafael Limon
76 Sam Serrano
75 Dave McAuley
74 Livingstone Bramble
73 Dennis Andries
72 Juan Martin Coggi
71 Sung Il Moon
70 Tony Tucker
69 Marvin Johnson
68 Gianfranco Rosi
67 Jim Watt
66 Bobby Chacon
65 Jiro Watanabe
64 Fidel Bassa
63 Seung Hoon Lee
62 Alan Minter
61 Ray Mancini
60 Dodie Penalosa
59 Juan LaPorte
58 Simon Brown
57 Ayub Kalule
56 Iran Barkley
55 Chong Pal Park
54 Carlos Deleon
53 Rocky Lockbridge
52 Barry McGuigan
51 Mark Breland
50 Charles Williams
49 Sambu Kalambay
48 Humberto Gonzales
47 Julian Jackson
46 Lloyd Honeyghan
45 Raul Perez
44 Jose Luis Ramirez
43 James McGirt
42 Tim Whitherspoon
41 Marlon Starling
40 Hilario Zapata
39 Orlando Canizales
38 Virgil Hill
37 Roger Mayweather
36 Edwin Rosario
35 Daniel Zaragoza
34 Wilfred Benitez
33 Antonio Esparragoza
32 Mathew Saad Muhammad
31 Santos Laciar
30 Meldrick Taylor
29 Dwight Muhammad Qawi
28 Gilberto Roman
27 Don Curry
26 Brian Mitchell
25 Alexis Arguello
24 Hector Camacho
23 Lupe Pintor
22 Sot Chitalada
21 Michael Nunn
20 Jeff Fenech
19 Myung Woo Yuh
18 Jung Koo Chang
17 Mike McCallum
16 Evander Holyfield
15 Pernell Whitaker
14 Jeff Chandler
13 Khoasio Galaxy
12 Salvador Sanchez
11 Azumah Nelson
10 Roberto Duran
9 Aaron Pryor
8 Eusebio Pedroza
7 Julio Cesar Chavez
6 Larry Holmes
5 Michael Spinks
4 Tommy Hearns
3 Mike Tyson
2 Marvin Hagler
1 Ray Leonard

 

Top 40 Heavies

40: Cleveland Williams
39: Zora Foley
38: Tommy Burns
37: Michael Spinks
36: James Douglas
35: James Braddock
34: George Godfrey
33: Jimmy Bivens
32: Max Baer
31: Jerry Quarry
30: Tim Whitherspoon
29: Bob Fitzsimmons
28: Jack Sharkey
27: Sam McVey
26: Joe Jeanette
25: Vitali Klitschko
24: Peter Jackson
23: Ken Norton
22: Joe Walcott (Jersey)
21: Gene Tunney
20: Riddick Bowe
19: Floyd Patterson
18: Max Schmeling
17: Ezzard Charles
16: Sammy Langford
15: Harry Wills
14: James Corbett
13: Sonny Liston
12: Joe Frazier
11: Mike Tyson
10: Lennox Lewis
9 James Jeffries
8: Jack Dempsey
7: Rocky Marciano
6: Evander Holyfield
5: Larry Holmes
4: Jack Johnson
3: George Foreman
2: Joe Louis
1: Muhammad Ali

Top 10 lightweights

10 Sammy Angott
9 Julio Cesar Chavez
8 Bob Montgomery
7 Ike Williams
6 Battling Nelson
5 Joe Gans
4 Pernell Whitaker
3 Henry Armstrong
2 Benny Leonard
1 Roberto Duran

Mentions: Jack McAuliffe, George Lavigne, Frank Erne, Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Lou Ambers, Beau Jack, Jimmy Carter, Carlos Ortiz, Ken Buchanan, Esteban DeJesus, Guts Ishimatsu (Ishimatsu Suzuki), Alexis Arguello, Edwin Rosario, Jose Luis Ramirez, Hector Camacho Snr, Oscar de la Hoya, Shane Mosley, Steve Johnson, Jose Luis Castillo and Floyd Mayweather Jr

Top 10 feathers

The Featherweights are an incredibly talented group of fighters; my all-time list goes:

10: Salvador Sanchez
9: Joey Archibald
8: Azumah Nelson
7: Johnny Kilbane
6: George Dixon
5: Henry Armstrong
4; Eusebio Pedroza
3: Abe Attell
2: Willie Pep
1: Sandy Saddler

Honorary mentions: Young Griffo, Terry McGovern, Jim Driscoll, Bat Battalino, Hogan 'Kid' Bassey, Davey Moore, Sugar Ramos, Vicente Saldivar, Eder Jofre, Antonio Esparragoza, Naseem Hamed and Marco Antonio Barrera

Mentions: Ben Jordan, Young Corbett II, Johnny Dundee, Kid Kaplan, Tony Canzoneri, Kid Chocolate, Baby Arizmendi, Chalky Wright, Howard Winstone, Alexis Arguello, Danny Lopez, Juan LaPorte, Jeff Fenech, Marcos Villasana, Tom Johnson, Kevin Kelley, Eloy Rojas, Manuel Medina, Wilfred Vazquez, Erik Morales, and Manny Pacquiao