Live Fast, Die Young: The Life and Times of Harry Greb

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Thank you. Glad you liked it. Ill be posting more in the near future. That was just in regards to the HOFers that he fought. Ill be doing one for the champions and one for the claimants/top contenders.

 

Its been doing well. Its slowed a little for a bit but now its going strong again.

 

Yes indeed.

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The newspapers for Gibbons Greb voted like this:

Pittsburgh Post (which had a special issue put out in the evening dedicated to this fight which doesnt appear in the microfilm versions but a copy of which I have hanging in my basement): Florent Gibson Greb, and an unnamed author Greb. This article by the unnamed author appears alongside Gibsons article in the special edition. I need to go back and read both editions because if memory serves the two Gibson articles are different as well which is interesting.

Pittsburgh Press: Jim Jab Gibbons (as noted several times in the book Jab is an extremely biased source against Greb. He clearly did not like Greb and had a feud with Red Mason that likely stretched back to the early days of both of their careers. Jab's opinion was so in the minority that five days later he offered an explanation as to why he picked Gibbons as a means of justifying his decision. He stated that his primary reason for awarding Gibbons the decision was Gibbons "timing" whatever that means...

Pittsburgh Leader: Richard Guy Greb.

Pittsburgh Gazette-Times: Harry Keck Greb.

Pittsburgh Daily Dispatch: Bill Peet Greb

Pittsburgh Sun: Unnamed author Greb. A comparison of all of the accounts shows this to not be a ghostwritten/or borrowed account from one of the previous.

Pittsburgh Chronicle-Telegraph: Unnamed author Greb. Same, this article is completely different in style and content to the previous articles.

Ed Smith's article in the Chicago Daily News is confusing. He doesnt pick a winner but calls Mike the "master of men in his class." He lauds Mikes effort and states that it took everything he had to hold Greb off but then later states that Gibbons found it almost impossible to hit Greb and quotes Gibbons saying that Greb was one of the toughest fighters he ever faced and didnt know a man in the middleweight division that could beat him. This may be a case of symantics whereby Smith didnt consider Gibbons to be in the same weight class as Greb and hence his success with the larger Greb proved that he was still a master of men his size. I say this because Smith takes some time discussing Greb coming down in weight and a bit about Gibbons weight. This is only a guess but it kind of reads that way. Gibbons himself seemed to acknowledge through his manager that he lost the fight when commenting "How are you going to outguess a fella who doesnt know himself what hes gonna do?"

Hopefully this answers your question and illustrates why I chose to describe the decisions as I did: Because yes, all of the Pittsburgh Papers except the Press voted for Greb. The Press found itself in the overwhelming minority to the point that the author of its decision felt the need to justify himself (fairly unusual) and the confusing nature of Ed Smith's article which seems to give both fighters a world of credit without naming a victor or even declaring a draw, thereby essentially sitting on the fence. Thus I felt characterizing the fight in a way that made it clear the overwhelming majority thought Greb won but also leaving room for the 2 dissenting/ambiguous opinions.