LIVE THREAD RBR: Chris Bourke vs Marc Leach (BT Sport)

navigator · Mar 11, 2022

Lovely display of will-o'-the-wisp boxing from Leach, pleasure to watch.

Will be the injustice of the year if he doesn't get this.

DramaShow · Mar 11, 2022

Round 1: Leach 10-9
Round 2: Leach 10-9
Round 3: Leach 10-9
Round 4: Leach 10-9
Round 5: Bourke 10-9
Round 6: Leach 10-9
Round 7: Leach 10-9
Round 8: Bourke 10-9
Round 9: Leach 10-9
Round 10: Leach 10-9
Round 11: Leach 10-9
Round 12: Leach 10-9

118-110 Leach

Surely Marc Leach will be announced the new British Super Bantamweight Champion.

navigator · Mar 11, 2022

Jurgen said: ↑

John McDermott got the biggest shafting ever in the same ring against Tyson Fury - the home of corrupt boxing
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No disrespect, but I never bought that;

navigator said: ↑

Shempz said: ↑

His cherry was popped years ago by John McDermott!
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Post a scorecard and explain how/why you scored the rounds, if you truly believe that.

I don't ask for anything I'm not prepared to provide myself;

navigator said: ↑

I wouldn't state that Fury had a legitimate case to have won the fight, but nor was it a categorical victory for McDermott or a robbery. The popularity of that opinion had as much to do with the prevailing negative sentiment toward Tyson at the time (his personality, his background), as well as the everyman's excitement at seeing his representative threaten to upset the rather homespun apple cart that Fury and Hennessy were pushing uphill (Tyson was never close to being the most hyped UK heavyweight prospect of the twenty-first century). Yes, O'Connor was almost certainly consciously favoring Fury with his verdict, but 95-95 would have been a quite valid and defensible score for the jackass to have posted. Fury-Wilder I is, objectively, a much clearer case of a rightful winner being screwed out of his moment.

It can't be said that I don't support my position with a scorecard and a breakdown of how and why I split the rounds, unlike many who reference this fight;

Just went back and scored this fight for the hell of it. Better to have a scorecard/breakdown to support a point.

R1 Fury 10-9 McDermott
R2 Fury 10-9 McDermott
R3 Fury 10-9 McDermott
R4 Fury 9-10 McDermott
R5 Fury 9-10 McDermott
R6 Fury 9-10 McDermott
R7 Fury 9-10 McDermott
R8 Fury 9-10 McDermott
R9 Fury 10-9 McDermott
R10 Fury 10-9 McDermott

Fury 95-95 McDermott

It's the classic gut check for a touted prospect, but coming in the novice phase of a pro career, on account of a big early step up by a young kid with modest amateur experience, yet to develop his man strength and yet to see the 5th round of a fight. Fury could have trod water and fought a few more flabby Latvians, but he took on a recent British title challenger on his turf and learned some things instead. Nobody can fairly say that he didn't handle the duress well overall.

McDermott showed industry, some nous and plenty of heart, but it wasn't enough of a performance for anyone to claim categorical victory on his behalf. Three of his rounds were really good rounds, namely 4, 5 and 8. He won them big (or pretty big), looked really authoritative in them. Makes sense, he was a mature man and fighter and a capable operator. Fury doesn't have those kind of rounds in the fight, even though I found all the rounds easy enough to score, and I think that's an influential factor on the reputation of this bout, aside from 'underdog turns up' syndrome and the negative feelings many had (and some still have) about Fury.

To break it down;

Sessions 1, 2 and 3 provide resistance to test Fury, but he gets more of note done than his stocky rival, plenty of good work that some will elect to ignore, including bodypunching and good digs on the inside. He nullifies McDermott's bustle for the most part, looks in control. Sky's commentary is poor – if Watt isn't distractedly blathering about how deficient Fury is while the latter is actually doing work, he's crediting McDermott for something that didn't land (0:19 remaining in the 3rd is but one example). Not to say that McDermott isn't having some moments in these early sessions, but rather that Watt has his knife sharpened for Tyson from the early going for whatever reason.

McDermott's pressure really tells from the 4th onward, as Fury perceptibly sags against the pace and it becomes less of a test and more of a trial of discomfort for him. McDermott's jab has its best showing in the 5th, with Fury working more than he did in the 4th and having his moments but overall less effectual than in the earlier rounds, with McDermott giving a clear impression of authority by this point. Similar story in the 6th, though to a little lesser degree, Fury still showing plenty enough signs of life but McDermott with the edge in authority. (Watt oddly chooses this moment to buck his trend and praise Fury while suggesting a deterioration in McDermott – it's still better than listening to Matthew Macklin, I suppose.)

Spirited 7th from Fury to spite his mid-rounds dip, highlighting his innate affinity for a donnybrook, but John McDermott's work is just the better of a very competitive session as he retains his edge in the generalship. The 8th is an excellent round for the Essex man, his best yet, but Tyson abides. First minute of the 9th is good for McDermott, but Fury reverses the tide in the second minute as John now seems to be wilting some from his exertions – the referee breaks to fix tape, McDermott comes back a bit fresher for the final minute of the round, Fury eats a good right up top as he whales away at the body of McDermott, but lands his own right and clearly sickens his man as the clock moves into the last 20 seconds, swinging the session in his favor.

Fury gives a weary McDermott the business for most of the 10th, now looking the fresher. McDermott rallies somewhat inside the last minute, landing a nice jab which snaps Fury's head back, giving the impression of a connection on the follow-up right which actually whistles right by the face of the Wythenshawe giant, and getting home a couple of solid rights in the last 20 seconds, but too little and too late to swing a round that has been largely controlled by Fury.

Fat Terry's 98-92 scorecard is abysmal, for which the only vague excuse is that he was doing two jobs, but McDermott isn't any hands down deserving winner of this fight. One can perhaps fairly argue that he has a slightly better case for the W than Fury, but a draw is the truest reflection of the contest. John would've ended up winning it for me if he'd had a better final minute of a competitive 9th, but Tyson found what he needed to swing that one his way with a little harbinger of what would happen to McDermott in the rematch.

He had a trying spell, but young Fury (not [url]Young Fury[/url]) dug deep and ultimately gave as good as he got, salvaging something from a situation that would have waylaid a less authentic talent. And he immediately committed himself to a rematch in the post-fight proceedings, pledging to stop McDermott in a return bout and keeping his word within a year. Nothing to dislike there.
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VanBasten · Mar 11, 2022

117-111 Leach.

navigator · Mar 11, 2022

Taking too long with these scores for my liking.

navigator · Mar 11, 2022

Thank goodness for that.

DramaShow · Mar 11, 2022

117-111, 116-113, 116-112 Marc Leach

TBC-ASAP · Mar 11, 2022

Will he get signed?

Jurgen · Mar 11, 2022

Looks like Bourke was expecting a Campbell Hatton decision there tonight

granth · Mar 11, 2022

The MC looked as sick as a parrot before he announced the scores. I was fearing a robbery there.

DramaShow · Mar 11, 2022

TBC-ASAP said: ↑

Will he get signed?
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I’d like to see either Leach or Bourke against any combination of Cunningham and Foster. He’s a good fighter, and has a nice support from Saflord / Manchester.

granth · Mar 11, 2022

Good on Frampton. Always says it like it is. Knows what he's talking about and not afraid to say what needs saying. Makes a good pundit.

im sparticus · Mar 11, 2022

I was quite disappointed with Bourke. I held him in higher esteem than the performance he gave.
He carried on with the same strategy and approach from the 1st Rd and never changed anything although it was obvious leach was in control. There was quite q few options for Chris although he never tried any, he could of totally flipped leachs gameplan and held his own feet encouraging leach to attack and looked to counter leach or if he wanted to stick with the attacks he should of been more fluid in his set ups, he hardly double jabbed his way in nor mixed up with jabs to the body. His feinting to force a position was non existent as well as his ability to cut of the ring.
Leach did the same thing all night and bourke never changed or diversified his approach once
Well done team leach

TBC-ASAP · Mar 11, 2022

im sparticus said: ↑

I was quite disappointed with Bourke. I held him in higher esteem than the performance he gave.
He carried on with the same strategy and approach from the 1st Rd and never changed anything although it was obvious leach was in control. There was quite q few options for Chris although he never tried any, he could of totally flipped leachs gameplan and held his own feet encouraging leach to attack and looked to counter leach or if he wanted to stick with the attacks he should of been more fluid in his set ups, he hardly double jabbed his way in nor mixed up with jabs to the body. His feinting to force a position was non existent as well as his ability to cut of the ring.
Leach did the same thing all night and bourke never changed or diversified his approach once
Well done team leach
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Bourke has said he broke his hand in R3.

im sparticus · Mar 12, 2022

TBC-ASAP said: ↑

Bourke has said he broke his hand in R3.
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Fair enough but he stayed in there punching so my post still stands but it's hard to stay focused with a broken hand.

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