Living Legend Marquez VS The Great Diego at 135

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    To be fair to the others, im the only person in this thread that has given Chico a chance, so its not people... its just me :lol:

    Now, one can cite styles, sure.... but theres still a person behind those styles, STYLES alone wont tell someone the outcome of a fight. Yes, one has to favor JMM on a round by round basis because of his overall ability, there is no doubt he will tip Corrales on that, but his succeptability to getting knocked down, coupled with Chicos power, will lend itself ample of oppurtunities down the stretch for knockdowns, and thats why I believe this fight will be closer on the cards then others do. This fight simply isnt as one sided as others think, in my opinion.

    Speaking of styles, how exactly is Casa NOT a master counterpuncher. According to styles, Casa should have had his way with Corrales, and despite the outcome of the fights, the fact is they werent exactly easy outting eather time. So again, its not as easy as just saying, well JMM is a counter puncher so he beats Corrales.

    JMM should no doubt box circles around Chico throughout most of the fight, but it wont be easy, and Chico will have his moments, the question is how many of those moments, and how well he can capatilise on them.
     
  2. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    And thats a pretty good chance because Marquez does get hit alot and he'll def feel Chico's power sometime during the fight and when that happens Marquez either gets rocked or goes down. But as always he'l get up and go back to business. Marquez loves to brawl and I find it hard he wont fall into one vs Chico.

    All that being said Marquez either wins a close but clear UD or late TKO after tocuhing the canvas at least once and have a few shakey moments along the way.
     
  3. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Marquez fights againts an older Casamayor and Diaz were competitive. I'd expect this fight to be aswell. With Marquez pulling away in the end.
     
  4. El Fisto

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    Marquez by stoppage, round 10
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Were you saying the same ahead of Marquez/Diaz I?
     
  6. kirk

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    Or casa/corrales 1 or 2?


    According to most, Casa should have made Chico look like a complete fool in their fights (hes a very good counterpuncher, with some slick skills, good punch and isnt slow himself), when in reality he very well could have found himself stopped in the first one, and he got an SD against a chico one fight after his blowout loss to castillo and one fight away from retirement.

    I think Chico is getting undercredited in this fight.

    Again, while yes, i picked Corrales by SD, i could def see Marquez winning this.... no doubt about it. But this JMM dominating Chico, i just dont see it.

    Wont be the first time i was wrong though. I suppose i should go back and watch some fights.... cant go wrong with rewatching some old Chico matches, maybe im just giving him way too much credit here.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Corrales was liable to get clowned by a fighter completely unwilling to exchange with him, and who had the speed of hand and foot to make that possible, but guys like Marquez and Casamayor are fighters. Sure, the Cuban was known to be a great counter-puncher, but if he got hit his instinct was to throw back, just as with Marquez, so one bad round could turn the whole game plan on its head. Marquez can get hit and hurt in this fight, but I'd probably favor him to pull it out. As Boxed Ears said though, Lightweight really isn't Marquez's best weight, not by any stretch.
     
  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Spot on post i totally with everythig you said:good
     
  9. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    All this on paper stuff and stylistic comparisons is all well and good but this is one of those ones you would just have to see.

    JMM is pretty hittable at the weight and hasnt faced a puncher like Corrales perhaps ever but especially not at 135. Corrales holds physical advantages over JMM that could very well upset him and take his inch perfect game some time to adjust.

    Yes on paper I see Marquez as the better fighter and winning far more often than not but Chico quite often threw a spanner in the works and I think he thoroughly deserves to be considered a live underdawg.
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :good Inferior offensive fighters have given Marquez problems in the past.
     
  11. kirk

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    :thumbsup
     
  12. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes but your forgetting Corrales is an inferior defensive fighter and Corrales weakness far outweigh his strengths in this matchup.

    I think Corrales only shot here is a hail mary(which is a possibility). But everytime he opens up hes gonna get the worst of it. After awhile Corrales will be a punching bag, that is why i like Marquez mid to late stoppage.
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    :twisted:**** guys.......I just wrote a couple of paragraphs on the differences between the counterpunching style of JMM and Casamayor and why Marquez would be much more difficult for Corrales than Casa......

    .....dammit, I inadvertantly pressed a key on my keyboard that took me to my previous page, and gone was my post.:patsch


    If I'm up to it, I'll rewrite it and post it up tommorow.
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I'm not forgetting anything, Anarci.

    Juan Manuel Marquez hasn't dominated a Lightweight since first campaigning at 135lbs. An old, rusty Joel Casamayor gave him problems before the stoppage, and Diaz gave him all hell and actually hurt Marquez with a sweeping left hook the first time they fought. I only had Marquez winning by a two point margin in their return bout, even though the winner was fairly clear. This is to say that Marquez has been hit, hurt, and had plenty of trouble with lesser fighters than Corrales who was tall, rangy, and hit like a fork lift truck at 135lbs. Marquez won't emerge unscathed no matter what the result.
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Well, whilst you're here, write us a few paragraphs as to why Juan Diaz can bully Marquez around the ring for the best part of 6 rounds but Corrales is reduced to just a punchers chance. :good