Lloyd Honeyghan discussion

Starling didn’t really have glowing things to say about him:
Starling and Lloyd Honeyghan had been on a collision course and met in early-‘89 in a genuine grudge match. The Jamaican-born English resident held the WBC title and was a two-to-one pre-fight favorite.

Starling impressively stopped the Honeyghan in the ninth round in Las Vegas.

“Honeyghan was one of my easiest fights,” Starling said, clearly disdainful of his former foe over 25 years later. “It wasn’t a big accomplishment for me because I knew I was going to beat him. He just didn’t have the tools, he couldn’t outfight me and he couldn’t outbox me.”

https://www.ringtv.com/525535-best-faced-marlon-starling/

 

Mark Breland (not sure if he means this as a positive?):

Fastest Feet – Lloyd Honeyghan – I never looked at him during the press conference or the weigh-in. Never once made eye contact. Then in the center of the ring when the ref was giving instructions I stared right down at him. He moved from the opening bell! I was expecting him to come after me but I had to chase him down. He was all over the place. I think I knocked him down like five times. The football player Dan Dierdorf was calling the fight for TV and screaming for the ref to stop the fight. What for? I was having fun! I bet Dan didn’t want nobody stopping a play in a football game when he was hitting somebody. When my heavyweight Deontay Wilder fought in England last year my co-trainer Jay Deas got me in touch with Lloyd again. We laughed about the fight. Lloyd said I got lucky. I told him I got lucky after the fight.

https://www.ringtv.com/375043-best-ive-faced-mark-breland/

 

Regarding Harada, I was trying to show an example of a weight-drained fighter. As for the common opponent like Rosi, I try to stay away from that because styles are different to every fighter and they don't correlate well, otherwise I would have said it took Lloyd 9 rounds to stop Roger Stafford whereas Curry did in one round two years earlier or that Honey got thumped by Starling who lost twice to Curry. Styles are just different. But to make my point clearer on where I'm going with this, I think Philly Fan brought up about Lloyd's fight with Mark Breland. I don't see Breland doing that to Honeyghan a year earlier. C'mon, at one point Breland dropped him with a jab. See my point? Should Lloyd be remembered for that fight or for his prime?

 

he had probably achieved what he wanted and plateaued.

 

Honeyghan would have lost to McCrory , and Jones,and did lose to Starling and Breland.Curry was a level above him imo.

 

when Lloyd stopped Curry, Curry was regarded by the experts as p4p #1, even before Hagler lost to leonard

dont let anyone fool you that Curry was headed south

this is like an investor telling the public what you SHOULD have invested in after the fact.

Lloyd was spectacular, his fists too lethal for Curry to survive and failed to shake off the effects. all he could do was fight for his life and I'm convinced that since that fight was softened up for McCallum, and everyone else

 

People, listen to this man! He makes perfect sense

 

So it is your contention that Curry was not dead at the weight and not weight-drained at all? Remind me again how many more fights Curry had at 147 after the Honeyghan fight.

 

Curry was great but may have gone a bit flat or maybe jaded but still only 25 or so. he could have had weight problems but still, Lloyd was too awesome that night and punched Curry to pieces

 

Red, we're not far off. I agree that was Lloyd's night and Honey at his peak. I'm just saying he wouldn't have done that to Curry a year or so earlier when he was able to make 147 more comfortably. You can't fight 15 when you're dried out and Lloyd had the style to exploit that.

Regarding Curry after the Honeyghan fight, he moved up to a comfortable 154 and beat two top jr. middles in Tony Montgomery and Carlos Santos, albeit by DQ. I saw both fights at the time and it looked like the Curry of old, but Montgomery was getting his arse kicked and I predicted what he was trying to do after the first headbutt. The cowards way out. Can't really remember if the Santos fight looked intentional, but it was the same result. Against McCallum he really looked good, but that one-punch KO ruined Curry - never the same. His last gasp where he looked good was against Terry Norris. Although his jaw was long shot, he landed some bombs on Norris that night. That is one fight I will re-watch time and again just to see two outstanding fighters in action, landing laser-guided bombs while saying 'Wow!" when it's over.

 

I loved Lloyd's performance in that fight with Donald Curry. If he'd maintained that form and mindset I reckon he may well have beaten Starling. Mark Breland too,maybe.

 

Definitely agree with you about Leonard,Hearns and Duran.

 

MAYBE? He'd whip them both in the same night!