Prime for prime. The Ragamuffin Man who tore apart Donald Curry versus Jones at his best. This would have been the incarnation who drew against, then dropped a split decision to Milton McCrory. Apart from having a puncher's chance with that big right hand,I can't see Jones beating Honeyghan. Lloyd was better in all other departments. Better all round skills,busier,faster with feet and hands. Honeyghan by tko - middle to late rounds.
Honeyghan was a world-class welterweight who beat six champions - Donald Curry, Maurice Blocker, Gianfranco Rosi, Johnny Bumphus, Jorge Vaca and Gene Hatcher. Colin Jones was a domestic-level welterweight who beat Kirkland Laing. Not much of a fight, honestly. Honeyghan by TKO.
Colin is tough enough to hang with Lloyd, but is a bad bleeder. The Honeyghan that beat Curry is a sharpshooter puncher. 10th round blood stoppage for Ragamuffin Man.
Jones was tough; Honeyghan in his pomp was tough and skillful. As mentioned the length of the fight will come down to how brave the ref and Colin's corner are... And as a reminder, anyone here who did go to the NEC for Jones/Curry and found a nose at the end of the fight. Please contact the Centre, and I am sure they will be able to get in contact with Colin and reunite him with said hooter after all these years!
Really. Laing beat DURAN who is a legend. Hatcher? Bumphus? Jr.welters who were shot when they fought Honey. Vaca beat Honey the first time. Jones was pretty good boxer with tremendous power and a granite chin to back it up. Throw in he was a good bodypuncher too. Honey at some point is going to trade with Jones and that will be his downfall. Jones throws those short powerful shots where as Honey throws a little wide.
I see everyone's point and that's the consensus I'm inclined to agree with.Honeyghan could be spectacular. But Jones really only fought until 24/25...based on what we saw he has the near medal in Moscow 1980, those 2 impressive wins over a hungry and motivated Kirkland Laing.And those 2 razor thin Mcrory fights against a distinguished WBC champ. I think styles make fights.Honeyghan in his prime may well demolish Jones. But Jones was a very good tough fighter.It would've been interesting how his career unfolded if he got that 1st Mcrory decision and had 2-3 defences in the UK.
Erm, Colin went to the Olympics in 1976, aged 18. He won the ABA's that year by sparking the England Captain, Paul Kelly, a serving Marine. At that point, Jones was 17 and not long out of school.
I said on the Classic Forum that this would make a good thread and there are some excellent posts here. It's a great pick 'em. I've seen both up close. Honeyghan against Cliff Gilpin and Kostas Petrou and Jones, training for Don Curry in our gym at Birmingham City ABC. The version of Lloyd I saw, who was lucky to get the nod on Gilpin, having been dropped. Petrou came in at short notice and had Lloyd hanging on desperately. Kaz always wanted a rematch. Jones was, arguably, slightly past his best and was managing injuries, particularly to his back. Never the less, the man's power was absurd. Savage in sparring and thunderous on the heavy bag. Colin always said he would come back to fight Honeyghan, ruined back or not. It's a massively hard fight to pick. Lloyd was a good mover, a switch hitter and the version that fought Curry was a spiteful, hurtful puncher. He was just plain brilliant that night. I don't think I've ever seen a more born Fighter than Colin Jones. You couldn't hurt him. You couldn't discourage him. He loved to fight and loved to wreck opponents. A quiet guy with a massive mean streak. The big factor here is how both men started fights. Lloyd went out like a greyhound whereas Colin was a dreadfully slow starter. I can't see this going any other way. Honeyghan teeing off on Jones early on and busting and lumping him up. as we go past the 6th, Lloyd is slowing and having to hold his feet, fatal against Jones. Colin gets to Lloyd's chin and it turns into a pure trade. Jones starches Honeyghan in the 7th or 8th.
Again. Gene Hatcher. Johnny Bumpus. Jorge Vaca. Two were Jr welterweights who held the title briefly. And Bumphus had a hard time getting up the STEPS when he faced Honeyghan. Curry looked HORRIBLE vs Honeyghan. And was never the same fighter. Problem is Honeyghan doesn't box and move. Against Blocker he pressured. Against Curry samething. So he's going to walk into someone who has ONE punch power throws short compact punches and has a cement chin. MCcroy at the time of the Jones fight was a dominant champion. Better then Vaca. Hatcher. Bumphus. Blocker.And if I'm being honest Milton would have been too much for Lyodd- 6'1 welterweight who could punch. And lets not forget the first fight was a draw. Your argument is weak. Its like Breland bragging how he beat Honeyghan when everyone well knows Honeyghan was past it. Pat Lawlor can claim he beat BOTH Benitez and Duran. Now on paper those two wins are better then ANY two on Honeyghans record are they not? BUT when did Lawlor fight those two? When they were both shadows of their former selves.