LLOYD DOESNT SEEM TO GET MENTIONED MUCH ON HERE THESE DAYS, ANY VIEWS ON HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE RING:thumbsup
He was a great British/ Euro fighter beating Mitee, Rosi (very good win), Harold Brazier, and Chris Gilpin (great fights) on the way to the Brit/ CW and Euro titles. His world credentials are harder to pin down, he beat an old unmotivated Shufford to get his number 1 spot, then boxed very well to beat a weight drained Curry, defended against the lanky, awkward Maurice Blocker and then against a couple of 140 lbers past their prime (Hatcher and Bumphus) in blowouts. He then won and lost the title suprisingly against the unfancied Vaca (those 2 results don't look as bad as they did at the time given some of the scalps Vaca went on to claim) before getting a bit of a boxing lesson and losing his title to Marlon Starling and getting brutalized trying to get another peice of the 147 pie when clearly past his best against Mark Breland. Curry, Blocker, Vaca, Rosi, Mittee (at the time) were probably his best wins, while the Hatcher and Bumphus blowouts were impressive to watch but didn't really prove anything (both those fights are worth watching for the comedy value if nothing else, Honey nearly flattened Lou Duva trying to get at Bumphus in the 2nd round). It was a extemely good career even allowing for Currys weight making problems, if you take Curry off Honeys record its still a very good body of work for a British fighter IMHO.
GREAT ANALYSIS, I CANT FORGET THE STARLING LOSS AND THE TERRIBLE SHOWING AGAINST BRELAND, WELL PAST HIS BEST ESPECIALLY THE BRELAND FIGHT:thumbsup
Cheers. I think at some point over the course of the Hatcher/ Bumphus fights he convinced himself he was this wild swinging KO artist, before those fights he'd always boxed well with good movement behind his jab before opening up. He got away with it for a while but the style was made to order for a cagey counterpuncher like Starling and that was the start of the end really.
The raggamuffin Man theres a blast from the past. A good fighter with plenty of balls. I rember him as a real live wire when ever interviewed.
I suspect they introduced the 10 second warning to the start of a round after what he did to Johnny Bumphus. That was ****ing hillarious, he steamed over and started twatting him whilst he was still sat on his stool.
even though he achieved a lot you always felt that honeyghan could have been better.he wasn't a very disciplned fighter,and the ragamuffin man nickname for the most part he deserved,he could look very sloppy and unorthodox and did some stange things in there.i believe he had quite a few bust ups with his trainer for not doing as instructed was it george francis? however on his greatest night against curry he showed to me what he should have been.he stuck to his game plan, worked the jab,his footwork was spot on that night,and unleashed his power shots onto curry which had his admitedly weight drained opponent in trouble all night.he showed great discipline that night,and just looked a very good fighter.unfortunatly that wasn't always the case.
I'd say so esp. Jones, but Laing was a funny ****er. If he was in the mood he could have made it interesting but I think even on one of Laings good days Honeyghan would have been too busy for him.
The ten second buzzer had been used in the States long before the incident, but you are right the Breland/Bumphus fight led to British MC's giving a 10 second warning to seconds. To be fair to Honeyghan, the bell had gone and Bumphus was off his stool... There is a reason why the referee tells the boxers to protect themselves at all times! Lloyd was a very classy British operator and from the Curry fight though to Hatcher, he was the finest 147lber on the planet, that had Breland, Starling and Brown at Welterweight. With hindsight the first Vaca fight was the beginning off the end. But still his demise was shocking, remember he was still rated a top four Welterweight going into the Breland fight....
Jones had an amazing ticker and would always be in the bout with Honeyghan, but Lloyd at his very best Curry form, would just have that bit more class IMO; Honeyghan W15 (9-6). Talking of The Cobra and Jones; did Colin find his nose after their bout?
I believe Lloyd would have been made for Jones on a stylistic level,the Jamacian would take the early rounds,the middle rounds would have been closely contested and back and fourth but the heavier damage being done by the welshman,the later rounds would be Jones's and the damage inflicted by the much heavier artillary of the welshman in those middle rounds would come into play leading to the late stoppage.
I woud agree that Jones would probably get more of the fight as it went on, but the Londoner would have just that bit too much class late on to blow his early lead.
My money would be on Honeyghan, he could be a very good boxer when he needed to be. He wins a clear decision for me.