Lloyd Marshall W10 Jake LaMotta - Retrospective

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Bolden was good enough but not "connected",he went for a swim against Billy Fox.

    In 1946, the Pennsylvania State Athletic Commission banished Bolden for life following his knockout loss to Billy Fox. Chairman Leon Rains accused Bolden of "quitting cold" and "failing to give his best effort" in the second-round knockout defeat. Too his $1,600 purse was withheld. [1]
     
  2. Seamus

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    Can to name some of those fights he was under this compulsion?

    There was a quote from a longtime West Coast ref (forgot the name) who said he could tell in the first round if Lloyd was on the take or not. "None of that stuff in my ring," he would say.
     
  3. mcvey

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    Teddy Yarosz x2,Eddie Pierce,Al Gilbert,Oakland Billy Smith, Grant Butcher,all these have a smell about them.
     
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  4. mcvey

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    Marshall named the following as the best he fought.
    Moore,Charles,Williams,Chase.
    Lamotta demanded $12,500 plus 30% of the qate to fight Marshall with a stipulation that if Marshall came in over161lbs he would pay a forfeit of $5000 which was his entire purse.
    The gate was $36,608 so Lamotta received $25,312,80, $20,312,80 more than Marshall.The June issue of the1944 Ring named Marshall as the greatest p4p fighter in the world.

    Lloyd Marshall, the nation's #1 Light heavyweight, boxed his way to an easy 10 round victory over Jake LaMotta tonight. LaMotta, sporting a streak of eight straight victories, was no match for the Sacramento, Calif. Negro and managed to take only one round, the tenth, with a furious finish that had the fans on their feet. LaMotta's left cheekbone began to bleed in the 4th round and Marshall made the cut a target for his left jabs. In the 5th round Marshall staggered LaMotta with several hard left hooks to the jaw and body. He piled up most of his points, however, with his left jab. The Bronx Italian also suffered a split nostril in the 8th. The fastest round of the fight was the tenth. LaMotta, who had remained in a semi-crouch most of the night, opened up and tried to tag Marshall with a KO punch, but failed. Marshall took every round but the 1st and 10th on the UP scorecard. The opening canto was even as both fighters sparred for advantage." -United Press
    • Although Marshall had been campaigning as a light heavyweight, he agreed to a contracted weight of no more than 161 for this fight. Moreover, Marshall's manager Johnny Rogers had to put up $5,000 to guarantee Marshall's weight.
    • Weights: Marshall-160¼, LaMotta-158½

    Despite the the enthusiasm the audience showed for LaMotta's last round rally (which the paper scored for Marshall regardless), it was an "eminently just decision". Marshall won seven rounds- "LaMotta was rocked on several occasions, Marshall never was bothered, save for fatigue in the very last seconds. LaMotta was cut and bloodied up some. Marshall came out of it without a mark. Not once was LaMotta the boss, as they say. But the stylish Marshall was ever in command. -- Cleveland Plain Dealer.
     
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  5. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good point, I've never thought Ray was near the top in all time middleweight lists. Top 10 yes
     
  6. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Damn. Billy Fox got everybody in trouble. Was he a total fraud as a fighter?
     
  7. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After a certain point LaMotta never had it again. I think he's a tad overrated.
     
  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is why he was nicknamed ,,the Cincinnati cobra
     
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