Lock stance assistance please!

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  1. El Hans

    El Hans Member banned Full Member

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    I'm currently trying to experiment with a style made a familiarity to me by the old Mongoose Archie.
    I'm comfortable in this stance I'm looking for any reading material, advice or videos on the stance specifically I want to master the defensive art snaking in and out of hooks and uppercuts and being almost invulnerable to straight punches sounds marvelous!
    I have a short stature long reach and heavy frame I want to overcome my height disparity in the middleweight range with this enjoyable unique and efficient style.
    Cheers!
     
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  3. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    I dont know of any books that teach the cross armed style.
    I would scoure YouTube and look at not only Moore but other fighters that employed it as well. But you have to remember you cant just jump into a particular style because its eye pleasing. You need to join a gym first to learn the proper fundamentals. Only after that can you gauge if that style is still even comfortable for you to employ. You cant force a particular style you have to go with what's natural and comfortable or honestly you'll get your ass beat. I would love to come in and fight like a Frazier or Briscoe but I'd get the crap beat out of me. See what I mean?
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Decent vid, don't know how useful it is but a good watch and pretty interesting
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  6. El Hans

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    I appreciate the concern my man regular sparring will hopefully iron out the faults maybe I'll settle for some sort of hybrid time will tell!
    I don't want this irregular style for anesthetic values it just seems to be exactly what I'm looking for.

    Considering the sub branches of this irregular style are their fighters on too of your noggin that fight closer to Archie's variant Im thinking Toney Old Foreman and Black Hercules?

    PS Everyone would love to fight like Fraizer)
     
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  7. El Hans

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    Thank you man for the time and advice I'm afraid Billy probably is too busy to train a no name aussie pug but I'll be sure to watch more James toney!
     
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  9. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    When you start learning to fight that way, it would be in your best interest to understand where your body weight is at all times. Your weight will be shifting constantly so you have to know where it is, where it is going, and what you intend to do with it. That is the essence of your ability to maintain balance and you have to be able to feel it.

    You don't block punches any more because, when you block, you take the full impact and you can't counter. You shift your weight and turn and roll with punches. That way the punches wrap around you or deflect off of you and your counters are set up.

    What you are doing is chaining together the flow of your weight; the way you roll to your left to avoid his left hook makes his punch wrap behind you and sets up your counter hook. Linking these moves together leads to landing clean counters and effortless power because you are harnessing and directing the flow of your body weight.

    And you are using the flow of the opponents weight against him.

    So you start building systems as you learn how to move, and you experiment in sparring and in fights. Generally, you let him jab and encourage it because no weight is shifting when he jabs; if he is shifting weight on his jab, make him pay. But mostly you want him to throw a right hand or a hook, punches he will turn on, because his momentum feeds your own. See?
     
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  10. El Hans

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    Thank you for your time I'll take this information into sparring most certainly I'm a converting pressure fighter so this will certainly be a journey!
     
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  11. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I think you will still be a pressure fighter. That is the best way to make him punch so you can counter. When you get smart, your pressure will make him throw what you want him to throw.
     
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