Logic says fury?

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  1. smithshaun

    smithshaun Active Member Full Member

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    Logically I can't see anything other than a fury win. I think fury will be 20-30 percent better than last time physically and mentally add the addition of sugar hill and Andy Lee I think this increases it even further. I had fury winning by 3 rounds last time.

    Will wilder be better than last time? I see can't where the improvement will come from to beat fury .

    The upright style that sugar hill will enforce on fury will be a great advantage imo . I thought wilder struggled to hurt fury because he was having to punch up meaning the power behind the shots were not at full strength the only time wilder hurt and knocked down fury was when fury lowered his head and was below the line where wilder could punch with downward force.

    If fury makes sure this doesn't happen which I'm sure they are working on then in my eyes it's Fury's fight to lose.

    I don't think this will be as good as the last fight I truly believe fury will make this an emphatic win in points!
     
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  2. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with your points, but this is heavyweight boxing and Fury is up against one of the single biggest punchers in history.
     
  3. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah, Wilder via KO.

    For all of the "I was only 60-70%" that Tyson came out with, Wilder, technically, is the worst in the HW Division - and he still dropped Fury... twice.

    Tyson has looked hit & miss since then against nobodies, yet Wilder starched another top HW, and Wilder KNOWS that he can catch Fury, and he doesn't have to fear Tyson's offence.

    Fury, for all the "he's with the Kronk! He's going to be slicker than ever" has had an awful lot of disruption in this camp when it comes to the changes he's made. He should have done that straight after the Wilder fight, not now.
     
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  4. smithshaun

    smithshaun Active Member Full Member

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    I think he does have to fear his offence, fury spent 6 months losing weight and not conditioning and this showed in his ability to fight for large parts of the rounds which he will be able to do this time , wilder was clearly buzzed on several occasions by fury apart from Ortiz nobody has done what fury did to wilder and as much as people want to believe that that was fury at his best it clearly wasn't and how could it be after not boxing for 2 years losing ten stone and having 2 warm ups against journeymen.

    As you say wilder is technically poor he can't improve where as fury can fight on a different level to what he did in the first fight. Your right wilder lands on the chin it's goodnight for anybody but he won't land it this time, this will be a boring chisora 2 performance no risk points victory
     
  5. Citizen Smith

    Citizen Smith Active Member Full Member

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    Common sense and objectivity should decide. Tyson was put down twice and splattered the second time and has been all over the place since then. Wilder has delivered in both fights since.
     
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  6. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's going to be a lot of people upset on here if Fury does the business.
     
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  7. Jurgen

    Jurgen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Particularly the 2 Matchroom FC posters who frequently press the report button and get people banned.
     
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  8. Jurgen

    Jurgen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wider flattened Pudding Breazeale - even Tony Dosh PPV looked good against that pudding before he was found out against Baby Butterbean.

    Ortiz won every minute of every round before he was flattened.

    Those 2 fights confirm what we already knew 5 years ago - if Wilder connects fight over but if he fails to connect, it is unlikely he wins on points.
     
  9. PolicemanPrawn

    PolicemanPrawn Member Full Member

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    Logic dictates it's a 50-50 fight. Wilder is a huge puncher but technically flawed. Fury is an average puncher but technically good. Wilder got outboxed but got the two knockdowns, nearly knocking Fury out. Fury took the fight without being back to his best, but hasn't looked that good against average opponents and got a nasty cut, while Wilder has beaten better opponents looking destructive but flawed.
     
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  10. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Likewise if Wilder wins. What's the excuses going to be when Wilder puts him to sleep...
     
  11. Hattonmad

    Hattonmad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I won't be making excuses anyway. Fury is 31, fit and fighting under an experienced trainer with a full camp and no layoff. Barring an obvious injury between now and then he has no excuses.

    I'll be very disappointed if Fury loses but he may trigger the trilogy contract clause and get a shot at redemption which would be exciting. Or, we hopefully get to see Wilder/AJ which is a fight I love.

    The sport goes on and the heavyweight division can thrive regardless of who comes out on top in this fight.
     
  12. TonyHayers

    TonyHayers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There may not be excuses but there will be some mitigation. Fury took Wilder closer than anyone else in his career, was seen widely as the more clear winner of the fight, and has now for the rematch seemingly changed his entire team. Had he avoided the knockdowns last time he wins comfortably on points. It’s his own choice, but serious questions will be asked about why what appeared to be a successful formula was changed so dramatically.
     
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  13. Scissors

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    We’ve had this thread before.
    You’re a fool to rule out a Wilder KO. Logic tells you, you can see that against any other fighter on the planet. It’s a strong possibility. Yes Fury will comfortably out box him but can he avoid that right hand for 36 minutes?
     
  14. Felix Sanchez

    Felix Sanchez Active Member Full Member

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    Don't know how anyone can predict with confidence.
     
  15. nurological

    nurological Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He can't imo. The first KD last time wasn't even a heavy shot and he looked all over the place. I really think Wilder KOs him this time.
     
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