LOL at People saying Mayweather Should of Fought Williams

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  1. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You do realize that he got his ass kicked back in 08. Nobody had to wait on him to do anything. He's been exposed for a while now.
     
  2. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't get why it's silly for people to have said that Floyd should have fought Williams just because it turns out Williams wasn't all that after all. Williams was perceived as a legit threat to anyone in 147 back then, if Floyd had fought him then and it was Floyd that had made a fool out of Williams, wouldn't that actually be a great name in Floyd's resume?

    If Martinez knocking out Williams was such a good win that it was a huge factor in making Martinez last year's FOTY, why is it stupid to say that Floyd should have fought Williams? It's stupid logic and a stupid way to use the benefit of hindsight to say that it's ok that Floyd didn't fight the perceived most avoided man @147 because it turns out, a few years later, he wasn't that much of a threat after all.

    And I'm 100% sure that if Floyd had fought Williams and schooled him, Floyd fans would waste no time in bringing up Williams' name whenever they try to defend Floyd from the accusation of having a thin resume at 147. There's no way in hell that a Floyd fan would say "Williams has no name, no draw,and he's not attraction. Getting schooled by Quintana doesn't make you a worthy opponent for Mayweather" if Floyd had beaten Williams.

    Dominating a fighter who's perceived as a threat is still much better than not fighting a fighter who's perceived as a threat and then later on finding out that that fighter wasn't such a threat after all after getting beat by a different fighter.


    note: I'm not accusing anyone of ducking here, I'm no hater, I'm just pointing out how stupid it is to say that it's stupid to have said that Floyd should have fought Williams.
     
  3. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What you just said was stupid. The whole point of the thread, was that people's hatred for Floyd, caused them overlook Williams severe lack of skills and defense, and overhype him up as credible opponent who was a theat to Floyd. I myself got sucked into it for a minute.

    Williams didn't just get exposed last night, he got his ass kicked years ago, and he's been a sucker for punishment pretty much his whole career. Its just funny, seeing how badly he's been beaten up and exposed in several fights when you remember all the "most avoided man in boxing" BS.
     
  4. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What will the Floydettes post if Pac were to lose to Marquez?

    ....LOL at People saying Mayweather should of fought Pac! :patsch

    Floyd, the king of fantasy matchups. Williams was a good opponent at one point in time for either Mayweather, Cotto or Pac, as of right now I do give the win to Mayweather, Pac and even Cotto IF they were to fight Williams. Williams lost to Lara and looked like ****! I believe Williams was affected by the Martinez KO.
     
  5. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everyone keeps tryna act last night was the first time Williams got exposed. No last night was just the icing on the cake that he guy is far below the elite class, and needs to retire for the sake of his health.

    He gets hit a ton in almost fight. He got bombed with power shots from Quintana over 3 years ago. Its been clear all along that he was way to unskilled and flawed to compete at the Elite level let alone with a guy like Floyd.
     
  6. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on! :good But they will never understand it anyway.

    Let me restate that if Mayweather and/or Pac were to fight Williams, after last nights fight, I give the win to Pac/Floyd. As before the Martinez/Williams 2 fight, I was standing behind a Williams win if he would of faced Mayweather/Pac. Now, Williams looks like he is done.
     
  7. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    And your logic does not apply to victor Ortiz then?
    It is apparently better that fraud did not fight Williams few years ago because now, he is exposed. What is this? A back to the future movie?


    Do you think that if gayweather was the one who exposed Williams instead of Martinez or Lara that it would be looked differently.


    *****s are using this logic constantly! It is good that gayweather did not fight cotto or margarito or clottey because they are exposed! Then he should have not fought Judah or Ortiz then. These fighters were exposed too.

    Ortiz won against an overrated berto and had to pick himself up twice in that victory, quit big time against maidana. Judah lost to baldomir who incidentally lost 9 times before fighting gayweather.
     
  8. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lol at anyone who thinks Mayweather would walk through Williams....and I dont even think Williams is good but he is huge, aggressive, busy, respectable power, and Mayweather wouldnt likely stop him.
     
  9. Gonzarelli

    Gonzarelli Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another fighter that Floyd was accused of ducking looks like crap and FLoyd somehow, again, gets the victory:lol:
     
  10. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Define exposed.

    1 loss?

    Better not fight Pac then. he's been exposed 3 times. What a ****ing waste of time that would be.
     
  11. Ringnut

    Ringnut Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not saying people are wrong in thinking that Williams wasn't that good after all, coz I agree, it turns out he's 1 dimensional, unable to adjust and has no defense at all.

    I'm saying that if it was Floyd who had showed that people were wrong about Williams by beating the crap out of him, it would be a very good win in his resume. Instead, now it's a good win in Martinez's resume and should have been a good win for Lara.

    It's boxing, people are wrong all the time when it comes to how skilled they think a boxer is, no one is ever right all the time. If you're the type who lol's at every prediction gone horribly wrong, then I guess yeah, you'd laugh at people who wanted Floyd to fight Williams. But if you actually do love and follow the sport, you should know by now that since this is boxing, people are wrong all the time, heck it's a sport where there are so many great moments and so many of those moments come from 1 fighter proving all the people wrong by beating up the man people said would beat him. If Floyd had fought Williams, he could have increased his legacy by easily beating up a man people thought would give him so much trouble. It would have been a powerful statement.
     
  12. str1

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    It doesn't matter if he got hit alot, it didn't seem to stop him from winning. I guess it just caught up to him. Yes, Williams lost to Quintana but came back strong on a rematch. Didn't Floyd do the same against Castillo? Its after he fought Martinez the 2nd time that Williams doesn't seem to look the same. And I am not trying to defend Williams, I am pissed that Lara lost and was robbed and Williams saying he actually thinks he WON the fight :-(.
     
  13. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto
    Williams
    Margarito
    Young Mosley

    Floyd doesn't have to fight all these men, he beats them all VIA FANTASY DEFAULT.

    LOL @ all the people saying Floyd should of fought these fighters. :yep
     
  14. garfios

    garfios Dark Lord Full Member

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    Everybody knew who Williams was but not too many did it want to rumble with the guy, is easy to judge now but back then no one want to fight him incluiding Fraud.
     
  15. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Floyd Castillo I was a close fight.

    Williams got the **** beat out of him by quintana,,Martine and Lara. Even in fights he wins he still gets hit flush by loaded up shots. He struggles to hit guys who present a little skill and defensive movement.

    I'm just pointing out he was another case of an opponenet who was popular becausee of his "get hit in the face a lot" style. He didn't have the skills, nor did he do anything to warrant a fight with Floyd, yet people out of deperation and hatred for Floyd grossly overrated him just so they could accuse Floyd of ducking a guy who didn't deserve a fight in the 1st place.