LOL@ Floyd being a " NIGHT MARE MATCH UP FOR MARG .."

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  1. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Good post. AM-Williams could've been made. AM's fans want AM to receive a pay day. Fans know how it goes when a guy wins a big fight. AM is entitled to a payday. No true fans knocks AM, just his fanatical fans who dis Floyd with lies. I respect AM totally. I picked him to ko Cotto in 10. He is a tough guy, but even AM does not understand or maybe he does now understand the beef Floyd has with Arum. He is suing Arum, and that is why you have not see Floyd fight Cotto or AM. AM asked Floyd for a fight before Floyd fought at 147. Floyd was in the middle of buying out his contract with Arum because he wanted to self promote himself. If I were a AM fanatic, I'd ride with the, "Floyd is scared of AM" excuse too lol. Good post by the way...
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    How exactly?, if DLH with his superior speed and skills couldn't how can will Margarito who doesn't know how to cut off the ring, has extremely slow punches, very predictable and obvious poor defense?
     
  3. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    The logic of idiots.
     
  4. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    So what about his defense, Margarito will be able to rough up Floyd because Margarito fights like a ****ing man, he doesnt give a damn if he takes two shots to score one, he is there to ****ing fight you til the very end.

    Oscar is almost like Floyd hit and dont get hit, he doesnt want confrontation neither does Floyd, Margarito will challenge Floyd in areas Floyd himself doesnt want to be tested in thats why the fight isnt taking place.

    You dont need speed and defense to win fights, Like I said sometimes there are other areas in which you can win a fight, Tonys style make him dangerous for any man who fights him, including Mayweather he is no exception, Floyd Mayweather Jr will be in the fight of his mother ****ing life if he even dares to fight margarito.

    We know it wont happen, you cant expect a ***** to act like a man, So look for Floyd to sit it out in retirement or fight Pacquiao if something crazy happens to Oscar in December, there is no way Floyd fights the man on top at Welter weight, there is no way Floyd trys to come back and make it clear who the best man is at welter weight, Margarito showed you who the man was in beating Cotto another skilled undefeated champion.

    Floyd does not want that, Look at the beating Cotto took, seriously, you think Floyd is man enough to risk that? :nono
     
  5. Circa

    Circa Skate And Destroy Full Member

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    Prettyboy Floyd by wide UD
     
  6. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    Floyd wins this by UD.

    And it will look as ugly as the baldomir fight...maybe just a bit more exciting
     
  7. NALLEGE

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    AM beat a smallish Cotto. Clottey and Williams showed you how good AM is when they both beat him up and lost and won. Clottey damaged the mans ear, eye, lip, cheek and body. Did he really beat Clottey? Williams dominated AM and clearly outboxed him. That is what happens when AM fights a real WW. Floyd doesn't need to fight toe to toe the way you want Floyd to fight him. Boxing is HIT AND DON'T GET HIT. AM will not be able to hit Floyd, and if he does, he won't hurt him with one shot. AM throws many punches a round. If he hit as hard as his fanatical fans say, how come it takes so many shots for him to do it. AM won't be able to just walk in on Floyd. Baldomir weighed like 20 lbs more than floyd in their fight. AM won't be that much bigger than floyd. Floyd isn't Cotto, he is heads better than Cotto and Floyd would totally outclass AM. Tell AM to rematch Williams anyway. He can't call himself the best without avenging his loss...
     
  8. NALLEGE

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    Shotgun jab to the belly, a jab, looping right, left hook, movement, defense on ropes or center ring, shotgun jab, clinch, speed, jab, jab, jab...Floyd UD
     
  9. Scar

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    That's all good and courageous, sadly it doesn't earn him any points against a fighter who will be looking to take advantage of that every minute of the fight for 12 as he proved before based on his obvious style.

    There's nothing Margarito will bring that Floyd hasn't dealt with before in terms of fighting style. He will be aggressive, sure, Floyd fought aggressive fighters before and the outcome/fights are out there. Margarito doesn't offer much speed, no ring cutting skills(needs that the most against a great mover) and very wide predictable punches. For Floyd that's nothing new or impossible to figure out, hell he will be able to get countless sparring partners to imitate that style, will Margarito be able to get any that imitate Floyd's?, the answer is no. That's the difference between the two in terms of style.

    Sadly that's a load of ****, with all do respect. Against someone in Mayweather's style you'll need everything possible and the way Margarito is predictable in there it will be nothing new for Mayweather apart from size difference which he already proved he can handle if he has to fighting at a NEW weight against an excellent opponent. Margarito's style has nothing to do with the hype and "warrior mentality beast" the hype surrounds him says, in the ring all the bull**** goes out of the window as Larry Holmes already said and based on styles it's pretty obvious who has the advantage and who will CLEARLY be the underdog. Tony's style is definitely dangerous and should be taken into consideration I never denied that but against someone with Mayweather's style and experience it won't be as impossible as many try to claim it will, not even close to impossible. Mayweather already proved he has excellent stamina and that's what you need against someone like Margarito, keeping the punches up and movement up for 12 rounds, Mayweather already proved he can do that and there's nothing totally new Margarito will offer, it's the other way around and clearly, just look at Margarito's opposition and compare it with Mayweather's. Has Margarito fought anyone even CLOSE to Mayweather's style?, the answer is CLEARLY no, did Mayweather fight aggressive guys in Margarito's style?, the answer is yes and some that were even faster and more accurate.

    You make it sound like Mayweather owes Margarito something all of a sudden. What has Margarito accomplished when Mayweather was a new Welterweight?, the answer is similar to what Vivian Harris accomplished when he was being hyped thanks to Mayweather. If there is someone that has unfinished business to look into it's Margarito and there are TWO guys that already BEAT him, Williams and Santos who are doing what Margarito is supposed to do being the "fearless legacy seeking beast of a mammoth" you guys are promoting him to be. Mayweather doesn't owe Margarito jack****, Mayweather is a proven professional with a proven record, 5 division world champion and 6 times world champion, P4P#1 for two consecutive years(if not longer), rated one of the best of the generation, undefeated, fighter of the year 1998 and 2007 and rated in the top 50 ATG lists.

    Compare that to Margarito and all of the opponents he faced, tell me if ANYONE comes close to his accomplishments in the boxing world. Sorry, media hype doesn't count because even at that Mayweather will win.

    Again you mention the Cotto fight, maybe someone should donate some more fights of both Cotto and Mayweather for you so you can easily the difference between the two, which isn't even CLOSE in terms of style.
     
  10. NALLEGE

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    Public Enemy said it best...shut em shut em shut em DOOOOOOOWN!!! lol...
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

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    Floyd is too small to think simply pot shotting can win it for him. That might work on someone like Baldomir, or even Judah, but hot an aggressive, heavy puncher like Margarito, who's ALWAYS right there in his grill. Floyd can't be a defensive master and try to keep up with Margarito. And if he stays in defensive mode too long, he loses because he isn't punching enough with anything that will do damage.
     
  12. CottoDaBodykill

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    in all honesty ... if cotto landed like he did .. mayweather is on another level in terms of skill and quickness ...for every 3 punches cotto landed ..mayweather would land 7 or 8 .. easy ..

    i could see this one turning into a corralas like beat down if margarito didnt get his act together and pressure early instead of later ...he couldn't give up the first 4 or 5 to mayweather like he did cotto damn near
     
  13. Scar

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    How won't he be punching anything if he's in defensive mode?, Floyd already proved he can fight going backwards. It's Margarito who won't be punching enough and I doubt the judges will score on aggressiveness punching air more than the target to be honest.
     
  14. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    I am a big fan of Margarito and has been for many years, and found him to be vastly underrated on this site, but right now it seems everyone and his mother are on the bandwagon(as opposed to before the Cotto match, where only a handful of posters defended him) and are seriously overrating him.

    This is not related to anything said in this thread, I just wanted to say, pathetic people. I bet once he loses, people will abandon ship, save for the same handful that defended his honor.

    There is absolutely nothing worse than people following streams...

    Just my 2 cents...
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    Punching backwards won't allow him to get enough contact to score. This isn't amateur style scoring, where all punch's are equal. And I don't care if he proved he could fight going backwards YEARS ago against smaller guys when he was more a mover. He's not the mover he is today. And doesn't throw combo's like he used to. You need to take those into consideration.

    There's no real reason assume Margarito will miss so much. Sure, Mayweather's defense is great. But Margarito attacks the BODY more then anyone today. He runs right up to his opponent each time they try to run away. He stays right in front in range for his own onslought of punches. Mayweather's defense works best against guys who head hunt. Even you have to admit that. Not to mention Mayweather liking to go to the ropes or corners will NOT be a wise move. If Margarito threw only one or a couple punches at a time, this might work. But even when missing punches (see the Cotto fight), he had another punch already there. And another. Can;t defend them all.

    Mayweather is not big enough to stand his ground ala' Santos, nor is he an active enough puncher ala' Williams.

    Mayweather cannot pot shot a bigger guy who'll throw twice as much at him, and he cannot win trying to run around and keeping Margarito away with a punch here and there. He'll need to land a lot of hard punches to keep Margarito off him. HIs bad hands won't allow him to go all out.

    Why do you think Mayweather's output dropped so much over the years? To protect his hands, in a similar way jones did.

    You guys keep thinking Mayweather will do something he hasn't done in AGES ..while Margarito only needs to keep doing what he's doing.