LOL@ Floyd being a " NIGHT MARE MATCH UP FOR MARG .."

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  1. DatBo215

    DatBo215 Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto clearly outboxed margo and landed at will wth vicious shots and Margo still was able to apply crazy pressure and wear cotto down late. There is nothing for margo to fear in getting hit with floyds shots. Just because he ko'd a Jr WW in Hatton doesn't mean he hurts a true welter. Margo would walk through floyds shots and wear him down. Margo beats floyd in almost the same fashion he beat cotto. probably stops him earlier.
     
  2. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    exactley.. this should make sense to everyone..

    except ofcourse to those who think he can fly and whut not :patsch
     
  3. fitzgeraldz

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    Floyd will land at will against Margarito and make him look like an amateur. Floyd is too fast and too skilled to face the same fate as Miguel Cotto did. Floyd can move, punch with both hands, has great defense, and great stamina and endurance.

    Only reason why Margarito would take this fight would be because he wants a big payday.

    He would have no chance to beat Floyd Mayweather ...
     
  4. yodaddyboxing

    yodaddyboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd POP shots against bigger men. He's SD a past his prime inactive Dela. who faded and stop jabbing. Margo doesnt stop anything.. Brittle hands would get spanked..
     
  5. K0NPHL1C7

    K0NPHL1C7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL@ People who have almost 1000 posts a month bashing Mayweather supporters by starting threads titled with acrynyms made popular by teenaged girls.
     
  6. Boogytonice

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    I have a feeling the suicide rate will spike once Floyd is inducted into the HOF
     
  7. T.C.W

    T.C.W Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    mayweather wins, the guy will just box for 12 rounds and win easy, mayweather doesn't get tried at all in big fights and will move and pick his spots to fight with Margo using speed to just win the fight.
     
  8. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Good post, Floyd fans will argue until they go to their graves, The only reason that they can even argue is because this fight will never take place.

    Sure Margarito looks easy to beat, but not one fighter Margarito fought had an easy time beating him, that is a fact, and the ones who were able to beat him were BIG men, he has not lost to a man of Floyds size, and more than likely will never lose to a man that size.

    Margarito destroys Floyd, already has, basicly Floyd took out a restraining order against the man having him removed from PUBLIC press confrences and such, Now that Margarito is the man in the division now, Floyd decides its best to retire, his heart isnt in it anymore, his bodys been shutting down, all this bull**** doesnt normally happen to a fighter who hadnt been through a single War.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

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    Oh...little baby boy come in to cry? People being mean to Floyd? :|:|
     
  10. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you know... all you little pricks who've jumped on the Marg bandwagon are getting to be as bad as Pac fans. Smartass, childish attitude and all.

    Marg isn't that special. He's HUGE for the weight, and that's pretty much the ONLY really special thing about him. He's not that fast, he doesn't hit particularly hard, he doesn't even know how to spell defense. Take away his chin and you basically have a bum. He'll get beat when he fights Williams, and he knows it. Clottey will take him out if his hands hold up.

    I don't give a **** if you like PBF or not, and I don't particularly, but he is a special fighter, most definitely in another league p4p from Marg and if you don't like it then shut the **** up. Getting tired of you little bitches and your big dickswallowing yaps running all the time.
     
  11. Scar

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    By adapting I mean he can switch to whatever style he feels comofortable with against different opponents with different styles. It's a part of not being one-dimensional. There are many fights of him showing that and the Hatton fight is the most recent.

    No you can't say Margarito will adapt to Mayweather too, by adapting I mean showing different styles based on his opponent, as mentioned above it's a part of not being one-dimensional. A proven one-dimensional fighter like Margarito who has one style and one tactic doesn't have that ability. Not that it's an insult, his insane stamina and chin are great enough to win him fights and break others down regardless of this. Which is why he's considered dangerous. Paul Williams showed a certain style against him and he didn't have an answer to it apart from keeping the aggression up till he finally shined late, but Williams was able to take what Margarito has offered which is why he came out victorious.

    I never said he can do what he did at 130. As long as he can keep his punches up and defense without showing any signs of wearing down late then his chances are HUGE. In Margarito's style I see that his biggest enemy in terms of styles would be an excellent defensive fighter who can constaly move and make him miss. He never fought anyone in the style of Mayweather, not even close. On the other hand, Mayweather has fought many guys in his style of fighting. No, they didn't have the same size advantage Margarito has but they were more skilled in my opinion in comparison to Margarito.

    That's the exact same tactic I see him using against Margarito, keeping the movement up and basically pot shotting. I know that you would think it will be useless against someone who can take a punch but I can easily see him landing more than Margarito, only late in the fight I expect Margarito's punches to land and land clean and I really don't see Mayweather hitting the canvas from them unless he gets tired and he didn't show any signs of that in any of his fights. Mayweather might not commit 100% of every punch but still he will be landing, backing off Margarito will be nearly impossible, it's movement and activity is what Mayweather needs to display in a fight like this. His movement and defense is already obvious and rated VERY high and that goes for his speed too. As long as he can keep Margarito missing then he's doing what he's supposed to do and based on Margarito's speed this won't be too difficult, especially not early.

    Of course he will be in Margarito's range but with his head movement do you fully expect Margarito to land enough or even more after each flurry Mayweather will be looking to land?
    Mayweather will be landing flurries and getting out of there and I expect him to land way more than Cotto did as he countered. Going to the ropes will also be a dangerous move but Mayweather already proved he can fight his way out of it. Using side steps and A LOT of them is something Mayweather already showed he does apply, especially against the aggressive fighters. What happened to Margarito when Cotto used that tactic?, he missed and missed A LOT and this is Cotto we're talking about, he doesn't come close to Mayweather in terms of defensive abilities. Also, Mayweather will be consistent with it in comparison to Cotto who doesn't have good enough defense and ate some of those shouts to be able to land his own as he started to get more and more tired(From Margarito's punches and from throwing his own).

    I'm pretty sure he will be willing, if he wants to win he knows he HAS to. Margarito's huge negative here is not cutting off the ring well enough, he can be there all the time but if he's doing so in stalking fashion, basically tunnel visioning then I just can't see Mayweather not figuring out what to do. What Margarito does is OBVIOUS, what Mayweather isn't always obvious. The biggest advantage for Margarito here is size and that's what will make this fight a tough one IF and only IF Mayweather doesn't move enough and doesn't throw enough and take advantage of Margarito's poor defense.

    Don't think he needs to be a volume punches, as long as he counters and lands more than Margarito while making Margarito miss he's banking rounds. Making Margarito miss isn't a difficult task as proven already and against someone in Mayweather's defensive abilities it won't be too difficult to land more than what Margarito will be planning to land. I mean, Cotto's counter punching seemed to be working great early and it's fair to say that Mayweather is a FAR better counter puncher who will add some defense to it unlike Cotto who slowly started to eat some to counter with his own.

    Just like Mayweather is only human, Margarito is as well. Margarito's style is full of flaws, it's his ability to handle punishment and break his opponents down as the fight goes is what earns him victories. If you expect Mayweather to slow down I really don't think he will, just like Margarito proved he has great stamina, Mayweather did the same. I know he will be coming off a year lay-off if the fight happens now(as we're discussing a possible fight now, not before) but I still don't see him finding it difficult to keep everything he plans to do up the entire night.

    Mayweather won't be fighting offensively in this one and doesn't need to in my opinion. The key here is for him to make Margarito miss and for him to land more, that's the only way he can win this fight since a KO is impossible to score against Margarito right now. The more Margarito misses the more Mayweather lands, aggression or not he still needs to land MORE. I know he will land but will he land more than Mayweather?, I don't think so and speed is the reason.
     
  12. Scar

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    I've seen Margarito's fights as you obviously have, I would rate his speed as nothing special or threatening. Against Mayweather he will need speed to be able to land. If he had extremely fast hands then my prediction might be different but he doesn't and he's very predictable with what he plans to do in there.





    Even if he engages enough, you make it sound like any engage or punch landed for Margarito and it's pretty much over, I really don't think so, not even close. Margarito will need to land and land a lot if he plans to trouble or stop Mayweather and we all know that Mayweather's style is based on defense and making his opponent miss. I just don't think it will be too difficult for him to land more than Margarito whether in exchanges or counter punching.





    Agreed.

    Just making it clear that his fight with DLH wasn't a walk in the park.





    It's very possible that he will based on stamina and ability to take a punch, if Mayweather runs out of gas late or is inactive late in the fight then this will be extremely difficult.





    That's because the heavier hitters he fought didn't really have good enough defense, it's Mayweather's defense that will make Margarito either miss or wait to land punches of his own. He can't really hit someone who won't be standing in one place, his defensive ability is why I'm expecting to see Margarito seem inactive at times as he can't corner Mayweather good enough to land on him. Not saying he won't land nothing, hell no, just saying that Mayweather will be the one landing more in comparison to the very active Margarito especially when Margarito's ring cutting skills aren't good enough.
     
  13. Bazooka

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    Typical Mayweather nuthugger response, He is not huge for that weight, he is average size for his weight, stack him up against De La Hoya and Trinidad and you have the same size fighters its not his fault Floyd is small.

    He may get beat in a Williams rematch, But Paul didnt want the rematch after they fought, Now that he is on Top Paul has changed his mind, Sorry your a day late and a dollah short, Obviously Paul moved up in weight, so maybe Paul doesnt want that rematch for a reason, the first fight was close, and Paul was fading in the late rounds.

    Clottey will beat him if his hands hold up? Ha if this isnt the biggest ****ing Joke I dont know what is, Clottey is on Video stating his hand was not broken, he suffered a bruised Knuckle, Margarito after the fight with Clottey said that he suffered from a ****ed up wrist and ankel yet none of you haters want to even drag that fact into this mix.

    Bottom line is you dont have to have a text book style to win fights, Margarito has proven that time and time again, you dont have to have a great defense, sometimes Will is Skill Sometimes letting your hands go does the trick, Not every fighter is going to be a mayweather, every fighter uses a style that works best for them, Tonys style works for him, and his last three fights prove that.

    Now if this was such the easy fight everybody says it would be for Floyd, Then why isnt Floyd comming back to fight him? The money today is obviously going to be alot more than it was when he turned down 8 Million Dollars, The fact is Floyd would rather fight the winner of Pacquiao DLH, beucase he will fight either A a old man in Oscar who only has one hand, or B a much smaller Manny Pacquiao who is there to be hit and stopped

    There is no way Floyd digs down and finds the heart to fight a man like Tony who throws 100 shots per round, and who puts relentless pressure on you, People argue Floyd will move all night, fine he will move all night, but he will not and can not win a fight moving, sooner or later he is going to have to stand still and trade, and when that happens Floyd gets exposed.

    Margarito fights like a ****ing Man that is why Floyd doesnt want it.
     
  14. Lance_Uppercut

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    Bandwagon? Sorry ******, and yes, you are a ******. I've been a fan of Margarito for about 10 years. SO who's the smart ass? Well, not you. You have the BUMBASS role down to a tee! :good


    So he's huge. So what? And if he doesn't have a defense, again So ****in what? Was that part supposed to have a point? :patsch


    STFU crybaby. I was a fan of Mayweather when he let his fights do the talking. Back when he wasn''t even that known. If anything, you're nothing but a bandwagon fanboy. And you do enough dick swollowing for everyone here. So, pretty please, **** off. K? :smooch
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    Scar.... I read your posts and I appreciate the responses. You force me to do my homework and back **** up, and I totally appreciate that. Even with all our disagreements and name calling, you are class on this baord. :good

    But I think I'll nip this in the bud. Agree to disagree. Too tired to type.

    Sad thing is, we'll never know who will win, since Mayweather jr. got "disinterested" in his division when it got pretty good.

    I just hope for your and his fans sake, he doesn't return for just a money fight. It'll make him look pretty bad. Or worse I should say.

    take it EZ Scar! Quality time with the women calls...and Greek is on soon anyway. If I am up to it tonight, I'll come by and disect the posts.:hey