LOL! GBP moves in and takes TMT's Gamboa-Direll date like a BOSS

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by iron_chin, Aug 21, 2012.


  1. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,214
    8
    Jul 21, 2007

    Hey man, personally i do not give a **** what you all (y'all) do with your country. But maybe you should visit other countries and LEARN how others live their lives . . . come on up to Halifax and I will show you around. I know you will love it here (you may not want to leave):deal
     
  2. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,214
    8
    Jul 21, 2007

    I took a couple of accounting courses and I hated it. Did not get a Business degree just a straight Bsc in Economics! I was going to go for my Masters but need to go out and make some cash
     
  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

    51,943
    2
    Jul 19, 2004
    Biggest problem here is, too many Americans want to do things 'The American Way' regardless of the outcome or consequences of actions. I think the US, for the most part, is too stubborn and arrogant. We're our own worst enemy.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

    50,554
    18,243
    Oct 7, 2006
    There's no country like the U.S. Lance. We simply cannot adopt a system that works in Canada or Europe and expect it to succeed. Be realistic.
     
  5. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,214
    8
    Jul 21, 2007

    I am not saying adopt another system but EVERYONE should be open to new ideas.
     
  6. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,214
    8
    Jul 21, 2007

    NO country is perfect . . . Canada has a long list of problems that we have not resolved because our current crop of leaders lack the vision and balls!:bart

    Okay back to boxing . . . TKO6-*******-*****s:D
     
  7. SweetHome_Bama

    SweetHome_Bama Loyal Member banned

    32,270
    3
    Apr 30, 2010
    If you didn't give a **** what the US does within its borders you wouldn't have brought it up then tried to talk like your country was some how better. :lol:

    You obviously do give a **** what the US does.

    I have visited other countries. I also know that I don't have to visit them to see how economically they are committing a slow suicide with their government managed economies. Something the US has been doing for a long time and is just now starting to reach the point of no return, like Canada will be shortly.

    As for the points you bolded in my quote:

    The IMF is as useless an evaluator of economic strength as any other banking cartel. Canada's growing national and personal debt tells the real story.

    Last time I checked the Fed is still going strong that is the only real bank in the US, everything else is just a subsidiary.

    Your national debt is still increasing, but what is really funny is you talk of being in the red like it is a good thing, it isn't. 589 billion in debt and growing. You should be very concerned about that. Also if the US actions during the Great Depression and this current depression doesn't signify to you that the government can not "spend" its way out of a depression nothing will. It is nothing but a theft of money from actual market participants into market ventures that most likely would not survive if left alone, which is a key factor that it would probably be better off failing. Again though, you Keynesian ignore history and think good feelings and intentions will change the outcome of the exact same actions. Your healthcare system headed for insolvency and being overrun is not propaganda my friend. :)

    Yes you are closely linked with the US, which is why when the US collapses from the heavy debt burden it has placed upon itself it won't be long until you all do as well, unless you change your course. The end result is clear though, your government will keep spending and spending without regard to what it takes in and it will be forced to default on its long term obligations.

    --
    As for healthcare, that is good that it never happens, sadly what do you say of those who are denied care because of no access or because the government refuses treatment and die? You don't see that in America now, but you will when the nationalized healthcare kicks into effect.

    I'm not a supply-side economics person, so I don't understand you trying to label me as such. The fact remains that child poverty isn't a government issue, it is a societal one, that is best handles by charities, personal accountability, and voluntary human action.

    AGain literacy is a parental issue, not a state one, best solved by the same means as I stated previously.

    Yes we have a ****ed up system that gouges people on prices of medication for the good of big pharma, and you have a ****ed up system that leaves people without access to services and at the whim of government health panels. LOL. No one said the US system is good, but even in its huge cartel driven state today it provides better allocation of resources simply because of the availability of pricing to its consumers. Yes people are dying in Canada on waiting lists or because they were refused treatment or care, that is a fact.

    Do you think this is just US propaganda? Baby removed from life support and the Canadian parents must go to the US to even have the option of providing care. [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2042894/Terminally-ill-baby-Joseph-Maraachli-dies-home-aged-20-months.html[/url] Just one of the publicized cases that happen routinely in government run "free healthcare" nations.
     
  8. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

    50,554
    18,243
    Oct 7, 2006
    Unlike most countries, the U.S. is 50 different states. Most of Europe has attempted to use something a bit similar to the U.S. model through the EU.

    Every State has its own governing body, with its own senate. Some states feel it is in their best interest to adopt a Universal Health Care program like Massachussetts and other states have done.

    The U.S. as a whole is a huge country. Every state has different set of problems to deal with. Not everything can and should be blanketed across the country. The Federal government sticking its nose in everything not pertaining to their jurisdiction is what is hurting us the most.
     
  9. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,214
    8
    Jul 21, 2007
    I care as far as how it impacts Canada and the rest of the world.

    what you conveniently are ignoring is that this who global meltdown was a direct result of the USA (and other countries) forgetting the lessons of the Great Depression. Deregulation and a regressive tax system created a bubble that burst and dragged the world economy down with it. Bama, I like you and think you are a great guy and a great poster . . . but you are so wrong its not funny. history and empirical evidence is on my side. Under the monterist, classical, neoclassical, Chicago or whatever school of economic school thought that you subscribe is fundamentally flawed. I will not get into because this is a boxing forum.

    Back to some serious boxing talk:bbb TKO6-*******-*****:tired
     
  10. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,214
    8
    Jul 21, 2007

    I am not saying the central government can do all for everyone or every state for that matter. However, there is a role for a central government more than just national defense. In the case of healthcare or system and many others are far more efficient because in economic terms health is not a normal good and does not follow the same economic model. I am not gonna get into the who economic mumbo-jumbo but we cover all our citizens for far less money per-capita spent by the federal government. Health and education are as important to a strong economy as good roads and bridges.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

    51,943
    2
    Jul 19, 2004
    All countries are different. Maybe you need to be realistic. Or perhaps you're just desensitized to how things are and have been, compared to what they could, or should be. The US has allowed too many entities too much power to the point there's nothing we (the people) can do about it. I'm of the belief things are going to continue to get worse for a majority of the people, the average joes, before they get any better.
     
  12. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    15,214
    8
    Jul 21, 2007
    Man you are so messed up . . . lol . . . i thought people like you only where props on the American news channels. There is SSSSSSSSSSSSoooooooooooo much that is SSSSSSSSSSSSoooooooooooo wrong with everything you said. All I can say is that I am glad I live in Canada :canada
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

    51,943
    2
    Jul 19, 2004
    I agree. But sticking to polices that have been a proven failure is what we do all too often.
     
  14. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

    50,554
    18,243
    Oct 7, 2006

    Sadly, Fed, State and in a lot of cases local government is corrupt. I don't trust them.

    The fall will come.
     
  15. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

    51,943
    2
    Jul 19, 2004
    True. I've basically stopped giving a **** what happens in Washington, and starting paying more attention in local politics in AK and Anchorage. I don't think there will ever be a change as long as there are not term limits for Congressman and Senators.