LOL Jarell Miller should come out and demand 60/40 too

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Good discussion by the way. All fighters lie about money not being important even fury and wilder but we all know that is bull****. What metrics did you use to decide that Joshua is not the A-side to fury?. They have goaded Joshua for months about him being a coward and chicken so it is reasonable that he wants them in the ring. 'If AJ wants a slice then he needs to play ball, quite simple really' you are basically condoning Joshua being held at a ransom because he has nowhere else to go.'Offer 60-40, a respectable offer' not to be one of those guys but Eddie Hearn made a public 60-40 offer to both Fury and Wilder so call his bluff. What value do you place on three belts in terms of percentage? and why are you not pushing for either Fury, wilder and whyte to negotiate with AJ instead of going to social media ridiculing the offers?

 

They do, but most seem more willing to compromise than Joshua. That's the key thing here. Popularity, charisma, the PPV Fury did last was big in America, whilst Joshua is yet to build a base there.
Most importantly, the fact that Fury is a character. Let's be honest, he's the one who would build the fight up, he's the one who will draw people to the press conferences, and all the other promos, and he's the reason everybody will be talking about it. Meanwhile Joshua has his regular large following of people, mostly casual fans, who will watch him fight anybody, which is why it matches up pretty evenly.
Being held at ransom? Is telling somebody "we accept that you are worth more than us, but not by a large margin" really holding them at ransom? Come on now...
He has made no actual offer of 60-40 to them and has actually undermined Fury with a "derisory offer... Not 60-40" by all accounts.
I place a lot of value on the belts, which is why I think that 60-40 for AJ is fair. However I do understand why someone like Fury will see themselves as due more than that and I feel that when it has dragged on such a long time. Maybe it is time for Joshua to bite the bullet...the reason why it's him who should do, is because he's the one having problems getting a deal over the line with either of them.
Theyre OK, they've dealt with each other before and are in the process of doing so again, apparently with success. Is that not a clear indication that it is not them who is the problem? That is why I think it's AJ who should be making the offers.

 

Ahh Jesus H Christ the Brit forum's obsession with "numbers" is spilling over to here, please Lord no.

 

Yeah, that's known as Eddie's "Offers" Shield (TM pending). Remarkable how he always seems to have issue after issue negotiating isn't it, why it's almost as if he's using it as a way to cherry pick fighters that don't present a threat to the ever chugging gravy train.

 

It would seem that that is the case, I believe Joshua wants it, but Eddie isn't so hot on it

 

Agreed. It's a winning formula.

Constantly court boot-licking social media "pundits" who are terrified of losing their media pass and refuse to ask searching questions to inform everyone at all times and at every opportunity that his fighter is somehow more valuable than everyone else as defined by XYZ.

Then, when some questions are finally asked about a lacklustre string of opponents while more challenging options are available, simply make reference to your fighters "worth" and claim everyone else, in every scenario is not being realistic when it comes to negotiation. The notion that a fighter is defined more by his marketability than his resume is so imprinted on the troll-army casuals minds that they now associate "better boxer" with "better seller" which is patently nonsense.

It's so simple it's brilliant and relies really on two factors to keep working. One, the continued gullibility of followers and two another HW not becoming more well known and marketable. The second scenario is the reason for the new and improved PR push since Fury came back.

 

People calling Joshua's offers disrespectful but by demanding so much the challengers are not being respectful to Anthony Joshua's A side status. Trust me any time Deontay Wilder has been the A side he has pulled A side demands. 40% is more than fair to Fury and Wilder they can not match Joshua on the finance side of things and they can not match Joshua on the world title side of things, they can not match him pn PPV sales or ticket sales either. No matter how much they dont want to admit it they are 2nd fiddle to Joshua right now, Joshua is the A side.

They should of offered Whyte more than 4 million, id like to hear about upsides before i can call it a pure lowball but it needs some good ones for it to be a good offer.