LOL @ The Ring's Ratings

Yeah its bull**** campillo is top 5 at 175

 

its ****ed up that helenius is rated as high as he is and chisora isn't ranked at all.

 

Yup, ridiculously inconsistent. Worthless rankings.

 

Diaconu has had two very minor wins in almost 4 years, for him to be rated above Campillo at this point is a joke. It makes the Ring look really bad for doing so.

 

Meh.......it's an inexact science.

In Campillo's case, I guess they don't want to unnecessarily affect other fighters, while taking into account the fact that Campillo has been jobbed several times. But they do still have to account for the official results. I think it was a compromise of sorts. It's a shame because the dude should have a serious case for being at the top.

In Chisora's case, I'd imagine it was the sum effect of his having lost 3 of 4. How do you justify moving a guy up leaps and bounds while he hasbeen losing? Again, a compromise.

Rodriguez is an interesting case, but the Williams has the advantage of name recognition, but also has a pretty deep resume(despite the questionable decisions). Rodriguez is more known for getting jobbed himself, which it appears may have happened again here. But who would they have pushed out of the top 10? Dz has been up there forever and only lost to Martinez and Bundrage is a title holder ta the weight. Rodriguez was an unfortunate casualty of numbers......again.

 

I'm not saying I agree with these specific or other rankings, I'm just saying it isn't usually as black and white as we'd think. Guys often have a claim for higher spots, or lower. When we're dealing with results and those results are sometimes questionable(at best) there are bound to be some cases that raise eyebrows.

Again, it is an inexact science. They can't go all in on official results, on quality of opposition, or perceived performance. They kind of have to find a middle ground and factor these things in, among others.

To me as long as the guys are generally ranked in a group relative to guys they belong with, I don't generally mind a few spots difference here or there. Unfortunately, guys get left out of the to 10.

Getting back to Campillo, had he been rightfully given the decisions over Shu. Murat and Cloud, do you think a realitstic case could have been made for him being in the top spot? I do.

It's Williams work in other divisions that got him this ranking. It's definitely not the first time that has happened. I happen to agree that based on this win alone, he should not have bumped anyone out. Although, I do think he is still a top 10 fighter at 154.

When the hell is Matirosyan going to step it up already?

I agree 100% on not rewarding guys for fighting sub par competition. It just ends up leading to mismatches, bad fights, bad rankings and over inflated records.

 

any ranking that has Manny ranked #1 p4p is no worth paying attention to

 

That is concerning. But it was one of the worst robberies I have seen. So I guess I can't fault them all that much. The judges were all suspended. That fight should not have even been close, let alone a Williams win. It doesn't look good that it was a GB fighter though.

As for going with the official results, they really do have to for the most part. Otherwise it would devolve into a subjective mish mash of who likes who. The official results have to be a guideline to work off of.

Campillo's ranking would certainly be higher if he had won vs Cloud, but it would almost definitely be lower had they not thought he should have won. They had to compromise, but couldn't move him above these other guys. They can consider it, but I imagine they can;t overdo it. Maybe if there were to be some official action, such as suspensions of the judges, etc.

 

Chisora has lost 3 of his last 4 fights and you want to put him up there ? The last two fights he lost to men with one arm lol

 

I think it would have been fair for them to move chad to second and have campillo just one behind cloud (since they choose to recognise results to some degree).

Fury at top ten is fine. Chisora should be ranked behind him so I have absolutely no problem there.

Delvin beating wolak is much better than anything williams has done lately.

The ring's rankings aren't perfect and noone's can be. But they're still the best we have imo.

 

Chisora is getting some recognition for his performances, despite the results. I don't think they are willing to overlook the official decisions in order to accommodate him though. I;m not saying they're right, I;m telling you what I think their motivations are.

If personal opinion were the guiding force behind the rankings, how do you think they would look?

There has to be some sort of proving ground, no?

As for boxrec type rankings......no. What do you think they would look like then? Talk about padded records........you get points for wins.....guys would just smash cans all year long.

They haven't done anything to be ranked ahead of Campillo, who is clearly better than all of them from what I've seen. But that is not how it works. You ask me a guy llike Erdei shouldn't be anywhere near the top. He's inactive and beaten nobody.
Campillo lost the fight officially, a close fight IMO, but a clear win for Campillo in my book. Whether we like it or not, that is a factor when ranking him. He deserves better, surely, but their rankings reflect what is actually rendered in the ring.

Again, not strictly, but it removes some degree of subjectivity. They don't have the ability to disavow all official results and still remain an objective source in the industry. They need to make their determinations with at elast some degree of impartiality.

Their rankings ain't perfect or even close to, but they are widely regarded as the best we have.