Loma is an ATG no doubt, BUT to me more on the levels of JMM/MAB/Morales then Pac/Floyd...

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  1. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I rest my case.
     
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  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    What does anything you've said have to do with Loma deserving more credit for the win. Am I blaming Loma for fighting him? No, but the win means absolutely nothing.

    Yes, Mayweather's last 2 wins mean absolutely nothing. You really think I credit him for beating McGregor and Nasukawa?
     
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  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Yet there were plenty of people who wondered what would happen if they fought. Well they fought.
    It proved that Loma was too big and likely would always beat Rigo.
     
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  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes they fought after RIgo was nearly 40 and very inactive and jumping 2 weight classes. Anyone that knew anything about boxing knew he had no chance. Go look at my prediction for this fight. Yes, Loma would always beat Rigo at 130, it's way too big of a weight jump for him. Fight meant absolutely nothing, even if he was 30 and active.
     
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  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I guess you could say it was a significant benchmark in how low people's expectations have fallen.
     
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  6. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As an admittedly biased Loma fan, he's a HOF for me, but i don't think he has achieved ATG status yet. And I'm not sure he will have the opponents to match even the 3 you named, in terms of ATG standing, unfortunately
     
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  7. vast

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    Given his amateur record as well as 3 weight class titles in 12 fights I think it is safe to say he exceeds Floyd rather handily.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Ellerbe sounds stressed.
     
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  9. LeftRightDownThePipe

    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Spot on :beer-toast1: :thumbsup:
     
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    LeftRightDownThePipe Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

    The weight class excuse has been soo played out you dumb dumb. Loma’s Whopping 7lb advantage played NO PART in That fight.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    What was problematic for Rigo above all was the speed advantage Loma had. I was expecting Rigo who has very quick hands himself to be faster. But Loma was literally catlike the way he was batting him around.
     
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  12. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Yep, it wasn't a taxing fight physically he was just simply out skilled and quit...
     
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  13. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    You make very good points.
     
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  14. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    Let us all take a moment to appreciate the greatness of Manny Pacquiao—

    People keep mentioning Rigo's size, but Manny has been giving up much bigger size disadvantages to his opponents for over a decade. And 40 year old Manny is STILL held to an obscene standard in people demanding that he fight Thurman, Porter, Garcia, Crawford, and Spence. All young prime bigger men.

    Pac is special.
     
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    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    They'll even let Floyd in.

    :ohno
     
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