Loma is an ATG no doubt, BUT to me more on the levels of JMM/MAB/Morales then Pac/Floyd...

At 126 there was Berchelt , I won’t count Davis coz he ran. At 135 there is Mikey Garcia, I know he just opted for a suicide mission but I think he would of took that fight had their been a good offer from top rank.

 

Couldn't agree more

 

Serge, i think the only thing that you've proved here is that you follow a lot of delusional idiots on YouTube who don't know **** about boxing.

 

All time great talent yes, but he hasn't put in the resume at any one weight class yet to make an argument. He's beaten nobody at 126, to make me think he would beat Pac, Morales, or Marquez. Russell Jr. is a hell of a win, but Russell Jr. is shorter than Pac, Morales, or Marquez, and he has t rex arms. Is losing to Salido, and then beating Russell Jr. enough to make him an all time great featherweight? Is beating Sosa, Martinez, and Walters enough to make him an all time great 130 pounder? I could see if he was beating Corrales, Casamayor etc. He needs to put the work in.

 

Well we saw the size difference in Loma to Lineares and Loma still won. Its not as extreme as Garcia vs Spence but its a start.

 

Marquez to me is more reachable for Loma. I always thought that Marquez was below them and borderline ATG. Dont get me wrong I dont want to trash him, but he may not crack the top 100 ATG. His resume outside of Pacquiao isn't all that great. He lost to John and looked far worse against an over the hill Barrera than he should have.

Marquez built almost his whole legacy against Pac. And he didnt even beat Pacquiao until after Pacquiao was clearly over the hill. Now the fights were close and could have gone either way. But if you're resume is built almost entirely off of one fighter then you should have actually you know, beaten that guy when he was in his prime.

So while Barrera and Morales are top 60-90 ATGs. Marquez shouldn't be rated up in the 60s. I see no argument for that.

 

There's no revisionism going on here, Serge. I don't follow any youtube boxing videos, so I didn't ever see anyone who thought Rigo would win. This is where I do all of my boxing socialization and speaking just for this site hardly anyone picked Rigo to win. There was like one troll thread, a couple of idiots, but that was it. Everyone with any sense knew that Rigo had absolutely no chance in that encounter. I certainly didn't switch. Dig up every time I commented here about the fight before it happened. I said repeatedly it was a sham, a scam, and a waste of time.

 

Linares and Lomachenko looked the same to me, which is as you'd expect from two guys who started at featherweight and moved up to lightweight. An inch of height and three inches of reach is a normal difference for two guys in the same division. This wasn't like Hurd vs Lara where Hurd was 4 inches taller. (My bad, Linares turned pro at bantam.)

 

I don't mind the TS's OP. Loma started too late to have a career comparable to those two.. Not many do have! It's not a dig at Loma, he's still a Unique talent & IMO will go onto HOF status easily....

What I am pissing myself about is what Loma continually does to the psyche of 'd street'.. The ghetto is completely consumed & in meltdown at the tiny slickster

 

Getting beat up by old Salido and best win Russell doesn't make you a atg imo needs to do more.

 

This

 

What? Who's in the NBA HOF that shouldn't be there?